Good Deal?

[G30 Steve]

Originally Posted by JD65

Every other semi-auto I've trained with had a safety you flipped up to disengage. With the 1911/Kimber set-up, it's opposite. I went through lots of training (I wish I had a penny for every round I put through various other guns - I could retire!) with flipping the safety up. My concern about a 1911/Kimber set-up was that I would revert to the old way of doing things based on habit and instinct in a moment of stress and be screwed. Just me. I suppose I could go through as extensive a re-training on a 1911 set-up and make that safety instinctual . . . now there's an idea!!!

It's not just you. You made a very wise choice for the RIGHT reason. Switching platforms can be a challenge and IMHO can lead to a very dangerous situation especially if you switch back and forth. That's why my three CCW guns are G27, G36 & G30.

The G27 was my 1st Glock and it's been a constant companion for many years. I won't be so foolish to say that Glock is the best gun around but it's the best choice for me. I don't train as much as I should to maintain the proper skill level and proficiency to confidently operate a pistol with any (up or down) thumb safety.

[jgraham7897]

Thanks for all the info everyone. I am hopefully gonna take my wife to the range with me on Thursday and shoot both the G21 and G22, maybe the XD as well if they have it for rent. We will see.

[X-ffdo]

Ok.
I have been in the aviation business for 40 years. Have taught flying to all kinds of people, non english speakers, women, men, husband and wife, one eye student pilot. I was a Designated Pilot Examiner for the FAA before I went to fly jets for the airlines.
Now I know this.
In learning, there is a thing called the Law of Primacy.
It means you must learn the correct procedure from day one. Why?....Because when you are put under stress you REVERT to what you initially learned. Got it?....... That is why when we teach emergency procedures, after the demo, when you practice those procedures, we (The instructors) purposely put you under stress so that you don't even have to think........... you just do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you learned to "flip up" the safety......guess what?.....You will flip up the damn safety when under stress.
The book is full of people who under stress, forgot about the safety all together. Yes, when the bullets are flying by, or your partner is screaming for help, and all you see is blood, or God knows what. Yes...I have had two times in my life when things actually moved in slow motion....explain that!!!!...., that is why police dept. prefer DAOs, no safety. "The gun is always loaded, finger off the trigger", untill you are ready to shoot, "Pull to detonate"
It is the KISS principle.
I would respectfully submit to you, Sir, that if you are used to flipping up the safety lever, you either go back to your system, OR get something WITHOUT a safety lever at all. My $.02. Don't mean to scare anyone. That is what I know. I say this because I care.
You are the captain of your life!

[prophet42]

actually LASO will not allow glock because they don't have a safty

[G30 Steve]

Originally Posted by prophet42

actually LASO will not allow glock because they don't have a safty

Did you mean to say, "because they don't have a thumb safety"?

[prophet42]

correct my bad, i did not mean to insult glock people here, yes a thumb or manual safety, i assumed that would have been obvious

[G30 Steve]

Originally Posted by prophet42

correct my bad, i did not mean to insult glock people here, yes a thumb or manual safety, i assumed that would have been obvious

Kind of ironic. Revolvers are LASO approved.

[prophet42]

I was told by a sheriff that it was political having to due with the barretta contract

[jgraham7897]

Well I went to the range on Thursday and shot the G21 and G22 as well as the XD 9mm and .40. I had better grouping with the G22 overall but I like the trigger pull on the XD over the Glocks (it just feels smoother). So once I have the money the G22 will be mine. Are there other magazines that I can get for the G22 other than factory? They were kind of difficult to load after about the 8th round. Or is this something that will get easier with use?

[libertarian]

I've never seen 3rd-party glock mags, probably because the factory mags are so cheap. There may be some out there though.

I find that putting a +1 extension on my range magazines (G27) makes it easier to get nine in there, but it doesn't really let you squeeze a tenth round in (though I have been able to once or twice).

They do get a little easier with use, but I suppose that's why Glock includes a loader with every new gun.

[jgraham7897]

That was the only real complaint I had with the Glock. I could get 8 rounds no problem. Does the loader make it easier? I have never used one.

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by jgraham7897

That was the only real complaint I had with the Glock. I could get 8 rounds no problem. Does the loader make it easier? I have never used one.

Do not use non Glock mags. They don't work. The springs will get broken in. A loader works for some people, I hate them. It takes to long. I push with both thumbs to load the last couple of rounds.

I know a Female that can load the last two in all factory mags that are new. Eat spinach!

[spc]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

Do not use non Glock mags. They don't work. The springs will get broken in. A loader works for some people, I hate them. It takes to long. I push with both thumbs to load the last couple of rounds.

I know a Female that can load the last two in all factory mags that are new. Eat spinach!

I have heard complaints for years about the Glock Mags not being easy to fully load when they are new.

With a little extra effort it can be done (as is demonstrated by the above mentioned post). More spinich guys .

spc

[ptbarnacle]

I am also a first time Glock owner who also have a G27. I carry it every day. I went this route because it fit the most rounds in the smallest package in the caliber I wanted. That being said, the lack of a manual safety still scares me.

I came from 1911 thumb safeties and miss the possitive lock on the trigger. Innitially I went with an IWB Galco holster that was not reinforced at the opening. Reholstering was tricky. I wear it all day every day but at times (postoffice, elementary classroom time, etc) I disarm and lock in a box in the car. For new CCW's I would stay away from unreinforced holstes while carrying a Glock. Putting it back in feels like my shirt, corer of the holster, fat-roll, etc could engage the trigger. I finally got my Milt-Sparks VMII and am waiting for the Summer Special. Ver easy to reholster but still scary for me with a Glock.

I have 8 factory magazines for my glock. I keep 6 loaded with 9 rounds and the other two to rotate through the other six to relieve the springs. I may be off, but I keep extras in the car, the office, the home, garage, etc, so I have more ammo wherever I am. They are cheap and easy to find. I recomend not puttng the extension on the mag. Learning to shoot it with a finger off was helpful in learning to use my grip correctly. If you can't get more rounds into the mag, I don't see the value for me.

I did have a range malfunction with the G27 this week where the slide stayed open after each shot! Very scarry. It took me a couple hours to find that the slide stop lever spring was pushed aside from a pin. I guess i did not put it back together in the correct order or propperly check function afterwards. I learned that lesson and make sure it functions properly after cleaning the lint out of it after a week of carry.

[sealbeach]

Originally Posted by prophet42

I was told by a sheriff that it was political having to due with the barretta contract

How could I miss this? I am going to be a smartass and point out that
Baretta is this:


While I think you meant Beretta, which would be this: