CalCCW  

Go Back   CalCCW > Concealed Carry in California > Carry Guns & Ammo
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Carry Guns & Ammo Where to talk about what you carry and why.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Fatal Error's Avatar
Fatal Error Fatal Error is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Truckee
Posts: 12
Default Extreme shock ammo

Anyone have any experience with this ammunition? I don't know if they call it that because it does what it advertises, or because that's what happens to you when you realize you just spent $65/20 rounds. A few people told me it's what the Air-Marshalls use because of the massive fragmentation and will not over penetrate.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 11:42 AM
Tom98915's Avatar
Tom98915 Tom98915 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Humboldt County
Posts: 1,533
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal Error View Post
Anyone have any experience with this ammunition? I don't know if they call it that because it does what it advertises, or because that's what happens to you when you realize you just spent $65/20 rounds. A few people told me it's what the Air-Marshalls use because of the massive fragmentation and will not over penetrate.
IMHO, Federal Hyrdashocks are much better suited for defense and have more stopping power for 1/3 of that price.

If I spent $65 a box, there better be a LOT of rounds in that box. 'Nuf said.
__________________
Tom98915
NRA Member

Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people.
There's them that can learn from others,
There's them that can learn from books,
And there's them that has to whiz on the electric fence for themselves."
I prefer to be one of the first two kind and to learn from others' mistakes.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well armed lamb."
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 12:46 PM
Fatal Error's Avatar
Fatal Error Fatal Error is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Truckee
Posts: 12
Default

I've been using Hydra-shoks for the last 3 years. Time to buy a fresh box, but haven't seen any lately. I've been seeing mixed responses on the extreme shocks.

Based on the cheesy ninjas they have on their website is enough for me to stick with the hydra-shok.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 01:58 PM
Tom98915's Avatar
Tom98915 Tom98915 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Humboldt County
Posts: 1,533
Default

For those familiar with The Box O' Truth website, they tested Extreme Shock ammo against Ranger SXT ammo.

Judge for yourself:

The The Box O' Truth #23 - ExtremeShock™ Ammo and the Box O' Truth
__________________
Tom98915
NRA Member

Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people.
There's them that can learn from others,
There's them that can learn from books,
And there's them that has to whiz on the electric fence for themselves."
I prefer to be one of the first two kind and to learn from others' mistakes.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well armed lamb."
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 03:08 PM
rundmlee's Avatar
rundmlee rundmlee is offline
Orange County Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Huntington Beach
Posts: 200
Default

Very interesting results from The Box O' Truth with nice pictures. Thanks for sharing that Tom!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 05:05 PM
X-ffdo's Avatar
X-ffdo X-ffdo is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Bernardino Co.
Posts: 2,363
Default

For your info.
Whoever told you that about FAMs is wrong!
__________________
"If you don't shoot, you can't score"
"The movement of the prey, stimulates the predator"
'The universe favors the prepared mind"
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 06:58 PM
paul0660's Avatar
paul0660 paul0660 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ukiah
Posts: 204
Default

After reading box of truth, I have to assume those air marshals have big mags and just keep shooting.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2009, 07:20 PM
Dutchman's Avatar
Dutchman Dutchman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kings
Posts: 248
Default

One look at the mall ninja's on the packaging would be enough to prevent me from buying this ammo. Even if it were good. At $65/20 I find the results from the Box o Truth to be laughable.
__________________
The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - January 19, 2009
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-28-2009, 09:19 PM
deadhawg's Avatar
deadhawg deadhawg is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 13
Default

Advertising hype. Not worth the money. Gold Dots or HST's or almost any modern hollow point will be at least as effective at 1/3 the price.

There is no such thing as a "magic bullet" that will alway instantly incapacitate a human. It's been shown over and over that shot placement is far more important than the bullet used. You should practice with what you carry for self defense, and at those prices, I couldn't afford to practice much.

+1 on the box O' truth tests. While not a true scientific test, it gives a good idea of what to expect from a bullet.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10-28-2009, 10:22 PM
desertrat's Avatar
desertrat desertrat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: various
Posts: 124
Default

No experience with extreme shock, but I have had experience with "counter sniper scopes" it is a sister company to the extreme shock, owned and operated by the same person Frank Miller. If these rounds are anything like that dang scope I had, just send my the $65 and ill make sure I put it to good use. It was the CRAPPIEST scope I have ever looked through hands down! So I wouldnt expect anything more out of their ammo.

Just my 2 cents
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 01:47 AM
Tom98915's Avatar
Tom98915 Tom98915 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Humboldt County
Posts: 1,533
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deadhawg View Post
+1 on the box O' truth tests. While not a true scientific test, it gives a good idea of what to expect from a bullet.
So true. I keep Winchester standard 230gr hollowpoint ammo in my 45 for defense. No frills, $29 for a box of 50, and they are proven to work exceptionally well for the job they are intended for.

__________________
Tom98915
NRA Member

Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people.
There's them that can learn from others,
There's them that can learn from books,
And there's them that has to whiz on the electric fence for themselves."
I prefer to be one of the first two kind and to learn from others' mistakes.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well armed lamb."
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 08:21 AM
G36 Steve's Avatar
G36 Steve G36 Steve is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: North OC
Posts: 1,080
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal Error View Post
Anyone have any experience with this ammunition? I don't know if they call it that because it does what it advertises, or because that's what happens to you when you realize you just spent $65/20 rounds. A few people told me it's what the Air-Marshalls use because of the massive fragmentation and will not over penetrate.
Don't believe everything you "hear" about the FAM Program. Their program and especially their deployment tactics and equipment are Top Secret.

Over penetration is not a problem with modern handgun ammo our law enforcement agencies issue and use. Even if a round missed it's intended target or over penetrated, a single bullet hole in an airliner's skin would not normally be a catastrophic event. Certainly not nearly as catastrophic as a hijacker flying the jet into a skyscraper full of people.

These specialty ammo manufactures have been making their claims for a long time but I don't know of any American law enforcement agencies that use their ammo.

Stick with modern hollowpoint ammo from Winchester, Federal, Speer, Remington or Hornady. That's what the vast majority of our LE agencies use.
__________________
Quote:
"Better a donkey in office that acts like a donkey than a donkey in elephant’s clothing making a complete ass of the GOP". (Michelle Malkin 11/4/09)
Quote:
The 2nd Amendment “guarantees the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.” (Heller p. 19.)
Quote:
"Those who built on the wall, and those who carried burdens, loaded themselves so that with one hand they worked at construction, and with the other held a weapon." - Nehemiah 4:17

Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 10:21 AM
Fatal Error's Avatar
Fatal Error Fatal Error is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Truckee
Posts: 12
Default

All very good points. Boxotruth was also very definitive. I was just curious about their claims. The materials (Tungsten-NyTrilium) they claim to have inside the bullets I don't think even exist. Not on this planet anyways. Maybe it comes from the same place where they got their mall ninjas.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 10:46 AM
Tom98915's Avatar
Tom98915 Tom98915 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Humboldt County
Posts: 1,533
Default

Tungsten-NyTrilium...I googled it. NO such alloy. Seems like a made up name for what is actually an inconsistent brittle metal used for the core of Extreme Shock's ammo that sounds fancy to make people go "OOH!". To me it looks like small metallic pellets packed in a binding agent like mild epoxy or plastic.



Until it can be shown to be something real, I will regard it kind of like the ShamWow - "Wow! what a sham!"
For the nosy ones - Consumer Reports' ShamWow: Wow or sham?
__________________
Tom98915
NRA Member

Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people.
There's them that can learn from others,
There's them that can learn from books,
And there's them that has to whiz on the electric fence for themselves."
I prefer to be one of the first two kind and to learn from others' mistakes.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Freedom is a well armed lamb."

Last edited by Tom98915 : 10-29-2009 at 10:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 11:39 AM
X-ffdo's Avatar
X-ffdo X-ffdo is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Bernardino Co.
Posts: 2,363
Default

Crapola!!!
__________________
"If you don't shoot, you can't score"
"The movement of the prey, stimulates the predator"
'The universe favors the prepared mind"
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
©2007-2009 CalCCW.com