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10-21-2009, 11:47 PM
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OK... I may be eating crow over Crimson Trace Lasers
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So I got this killer (a euphemism to be sure) deal on a Crimson Trace Military model for my Beretta 92... I have been playing with it for a coupla weeks... Did some night shooting... last night I taught a low light class, and after class shot some steel... had on just enough light to id the target and not enough to see the non night sight Beretta's sights.... Ummm... these laser things are kinda cool... and maybe they have a place for guns where the night sights are very expensive to install... IE: older smith J frames.... or my beretta 92fs... It isn't a end all do all sight... and it has batteries which DIE...and you do, I believe, still have to use your standard shooting stance/hold thang...and it should be used where the dot sits on top of the front sight at a known range...and I think I will have to quit making nice noises when a client shows me their laser and reply instead with greater enthusiasm... What say you?
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10-21-2009, 11:57 PM
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lasers fail.... in dust/particle conditions they are a nice roadsign showing where you're at.... if your hand is not as steady as it is during a stress situatino the BG can easily see how badly you're reacting and your aim is all over the place and.. well I could keep going.
I think that laser is not a bad choise for a long gun in close quarters environment but for a handgun it's more of a hindrance and liability then anything else.
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10-22-2009, 12:07 AM
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What I like about the military model specifically it that it is activated like the light on my duty gun... I simply tighten my middle finger on the frame... has a cute little button there...I have been using the light for about 5 months and done the searching for and gaining compliance from badguys/gals (one was a female) with it for real kinda thing and I really find some advantages to the switch... and if I got the laser on.. its cause I have it pointed at something/one and I am about to get on with the gaining compliance by gunfire thing ifn they don't comply and I have to shine the flashlight thing on them anyway to insure they are indeed a threat and then I only point the gun (and would subsequently turn on the laser) at something I am going to shoot...and I did the plates at 50 yards the other night as in dark night and WOW... So yes they have disadvantages... but I am at a disadvantage anyway cause I don't simply shoot at people in the dark... the goblin shoots at sounds and movement and what he can see...I have to shoot only known threats....kinda like a - I have to shoot back first thing....and as a substitute for night sights...HMmmmmmm I am thinking this isn't a bad thing.... especially for the over 80 crowd what carry guns and have like quad focal glasses...und dittos on da turning it on and leaving it on thing... dat bad juju much for sure ... 
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10-22-2009, 12:37 AM
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I do not know, but I often wonder why most people shy away from lasers but readily want to attach a flashlight to their guns......never understood that mentality, they both give away your location, the flash light in a bigger way. Then, the pricing is atrocious, those things cost their weight in gold. You can get a kick ass laser in China for dirt cheap.
The power to influence the mind and make money!!!!. Nothing against lasers, given the choice if forced, I'll take the laser, at least there is an intimidation factor and it won't give your position miles away in the night like that stupid $500.00 flashlight.....by the way , why don't you light up a cigarette?.....  .....BOOM!!!!!
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10-22-2009, 01:50 AM
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Where are you getting the dust? I'm guessing most confrontations are going to be in your home or on the street. I haven't seen much dust in OC or LA cities. I guess if you've tussled with the bg in your barn and rolled off the hay on to the dirt floor you could have raised enough dust to let the laser lead right to you...... but I bet he knows you're there already. Please don't say after you've shot the laser will light up the smoke.
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10-23-2009, 08:58 PM
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"Under the table Greebo sat and washed himself. Occasionally he burped. Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat." "Greebo turned upon Granny Weatherwax a yellow-eyed stare of self-satisfied malevolence, such as cats always reserve for people who don't like them, and purred. Greebo was possibly the only cat who could snigger in purr" Greebo the Cat - Terry Pratchett "Witches Abroad"
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