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Old 05-23-2009, 10:59 PM
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One of my carry guns is a SigSauer P220 45acp which I like,never cared for Glocks.I shot one at a raahauges shooting sports fair when they were running an endurance test on Glocks prior to LE purchases.I also like wheel guns:S&W Mod 19 357 mag 6" TT,TH,TS custom tuned by a master gs.

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Old 05-24-2009, 12:17 AM
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I own a Kimber Ultra carry II, and I love it. It is awesome accurate for such a small gun. However, every time I have taken it out shooting, I have atleast a couple failure to feed malfunctions. It extracts the spent shell fine, sends it flying, picks up the next one and gets it about 90 percent of the way into the chamber, and then stops as if the spring didn't have enough force to push the slide all the way back closed. Thought maybe I was limp wristing it or something. I was accused of not keeping my gun clean by a few people. But that is NOT the problem.

However, my Glock 30 has not had a single issue. Functions perfectly everytime. I still carry my Kimber quite often, but I am much more comfortable when I have my Glock on me simply because of it proven reliability.

I am not a huge fan of the Beretta 92's. I know it seems to be the primary hand gun in the military. But I will admit that my dislike for them is purely cosmetic. I don't like the exposed barrel at the top of the slide. And especially as a carry gun, it just looks like too many parts that could get hooked on clothing. That's one of my other reasons for being more comfortable carrying my glock over my kimber. The 1911 Kimber just has too many things protruding from it that get caught on my clothing.
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:06 AM
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I've never had problems with my M&P, I've carried it for a little over 3 years so far and shot more ammo through it than I can afford. No problems, to each their own I guess.

As a matter of fact all of the handguns on my permit are Smith and Wesson's. That was not by design, more of and accident or after thought. Guess I shouldn't say "Accident" when I am talking about firearms... I feel confident with all of them.

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The 1911PD was customized with the "Bobtail" and the slim Wilson grips, it really is a Smith though.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:07 PM
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I've owned S&W, H&K, Sig, Kimber and have shot Glock and Beretta. When I owned multiple manufaturer's weapons, I practiced with all of them all of the time. It occurred to me that some had safeties, some didn't, some had de-cockers, all had slide releases and those controls were in different places on different guns, and some safeties released by pushing up, some by pushing down. Were I to be awakened by breaking glass in the middle of the night and grabbed a gun, I'd have to pause to think of which weapon I had in my hand and where and how its controls worked. Since my main focus of gun ownership has always been self defense, I decided that owning one type of handgun would be the best. I settled on Sig P200 .45s because they have no safety, therefore the first shot is double action like a revolver, and I know instinctively when picking up the weapon the location and operation of slide release and de-cocker. If a situation we all hope will never happen actually does happen, I need to be not only as good but as quick as I can be to maximize my chances of survival. As Greg says, "In a gunfight, it is better to give than to receive."

My reasons or choice of weapon(s) may not be the same as anyone else's, but if that situation ever occurs, no one else will be there to protect me and mine but yours truly. And the best training (and comfort) I can have with a weapon will give me my maximum effectiveness.
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:47 PM
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As far as the Polymer v. Steel controversy goes, someone posted a hilarious parody of Jack Nicholson's soliloquy from A Few Good Men; does anyone remember it? Does anyone have a link to it?
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:55 PM
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My Ruger 45 auto has NEVER given me grief or failed to fire. I find it amusing how all of you jump all over Glock or S&W, but the Ruger pistols a lot of us carry sit quietly in our holsters waiting to be used, knowing it will work to defend the person using it.

You guys don't say much about Ruger, but never say anything bad about them either. HMM...

I will bet my life on mine.

FYI - for those who know who Massad Ayoob is, his agency uses the Ruger P345 as their on duty weapon.
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I settled on Sig P200 .45s because ...
Obviously I meant P220 ... just a typo ... it wasn't my trigger finger, ok?!
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I would. Actually I do......figures. I must be special.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:48 PM
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not that i will ever own m&p i think SW shouild stick to revolvers only. i love glocks g 23 and g 27. glock will solve the problem for sure
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:43 AM
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xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd..... nuff said? by far the most dependable automatic one can carry, outside of a colt 1911 mkIV, the second is just a bit on the cumbersome side for daily carry...
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:52 AM
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As an owner of both glock and kimber, I would never carry the Kimber, it's just not very reliable, the glock just keeps on ticking like the energizer bunny.

Kimber is a lot nicer to shoot and a more accurate, but not as reliable.
I have to agree with you on the Kimbers. Last year I was at a class in Ukiah for my CCW renewal. Every person who had a Kimber in the class was having problems with their gun, most of them spring related. Those of us with Rugers and Glocks did not have problems that I can recall. My Cz52 is far more reliable than any Kimber I have seen in use so far. Of course it has Harrington rollers & firing pin and a 18LB spring in it and has been lightly cleaned up to work as consistently as I can get it which actually is almost as good as my Ruger. I've put a few thousand rounds through it and it has always gone BANG - er, I mean BOOM every time I have pulled the trigger. Therefore I keep it as my backup pistol to my Ruger 45. they are not pretty or shiny like a Kimber, but my Ruger and Cz have proven to be very reliable which is what matters most.

Kimbers are nice and shoot really sweet, but my Ruger and Cz have NEVER failed me and I know I can count on them to protect my life if that need ever arises.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:39 AM
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I have to agree with you on the Kimbers. Last year I was at a class in Ukiah for my CCW renewal. Every person who had a Kimber in the class was having problems with their gun, most of them spring related...

Kimbers are nice and shoot really sweet, but my Ruger and Cz have NEVER failed me and I know I can count on them to protect my life if that need ever arises.
Interesting, I haven't had a problem with my Kimber.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:47 AM
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LAPD decision had more to do with department politics and prejudices than anything else. The fact that more and more agencies are moving to the M&P is proof positive.

Washington State Patrol Converts to Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols | FreshNews.com
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SPRINGFIELD, Mass., Oct. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (Nasdaq: SWHC), parent company of Smith & Wesson Corp., the legendary 157-year old company in the global business of safety, security, protection and sport, announced today that the Washington State Patrol (WSP) has selected firearms from the company's Military & Police (M&P) Pistol Series for duty use. The Smith & Wesson M&P40, which is made in the United States, will be issued to each officer of the Washington State Patrol to replace firearms supplied by a European-based manufacturer that had previously served as the primary duty sidearm. The Washington State Patrol has ordered 1,400 M&P40 pistols. The company has also recently completed shipments of 1,300 M&P pistols to be used by the Washington State Department of Corrections (DOC).

The WSP selected the M&P pistol after an extensive testing and evaluation process, which included various competitors. State Patrol evaluators indicated that the M&P pistol incorporated several key features including enhanced ergonomics and ambidextrous controls that are valuable for their officers. The evaluators added that the polymer pistol's interchangeable grip sizes, ease of maintenance and level of support offered by Smith & Wesson were all primary factors in their recommendation that the WSP acquire the M&P pistol. In addition to the State Patrol's high remarks on the performance of the M&P pistol during testing, officials at Washington State DOC commended Smith & Wesson for its customer service, product warranty and armorer's training conducted by the company.
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I only carry guns that are 100% reliable. They have problems, they are history! I am not betting my life on something that is just pretty. It must work reliably. Anything else is secondary
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Interesting, I haven't had a problem with my Kimber.
Me neither. Any of them. Or my Wilson.
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