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Old 02-21-2008, 09:19 PM
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Ask your Legislature why Colorado won't honor CCWs from other states... It's been a while since I've read about this, but within the past couple of years, Colorado changed it's rules about what it honors and does not honor. That may be the issue.
Actually, it was just last year that they changed it. Colorado will not honor a non-resident Utah or Florida CCW. That is one of the reasons my family and I did not go back to Durango for skiing at Christmas this year. We went there last Christmas, and I CCW'd the whole time we were out of California (except while on skis, that could hurt, the way I ski).
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:26 PM
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That's what I was thinking of. Like I said, it's been a while.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:28 PM
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Actually, it was just last year that they changed it. Colorado will not honor a non-resident Utah or Florida CCW. That is one of the reasons my family and I did not go back to Durango for skiing at Christmas this year. We went there last Christmas, and I CCW'd the whole time we were out of California (except while on skis, that could hurt, the way I ski).
Folks like you need to write the Gov and the Tourist Board and let them know how their policy is keeping you from spending your money in their state!
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:24 AM
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Folks like you need to write the Gov and the Tourist Board and let them know how their policy is keeping you from spending your money in their state!
I wrote the Denver newspaper a letter about this when they passed it. I will dig it out, update it and send it to the politicians, for what it is worth.
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:51 PM
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Does your Nevada CCW permit allow you to carry in the casinos or is there a law against carrying in the casinos due to the alcohol sales?
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:43 AM
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Folks like you need to write the Gov and the Tourist Board and let them know how their policy is keeping you from spending your money in their state!
The way this was marketed was that they were tired of Colorado Residents foregoing the CO CCW and just getting a UT one and carrying in CO...they lost revenue. But somewhere in the shuffle, the antis left out a key part, and made ALL Non Res permits invalid, and not offer CO Non Residents...

So, the only people who have the right to protect themselves in CO is CO residents...

Somehow, that sounds vaguely familiar...hmmmmmmmm
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Does your Nevada CCW permit allow you to carry in the casinos or is there a law against carrying in the casinos due to the alcohol sales?
By law casino carry is legal. I have done it in the reno casinos a number of times.

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By law casino carry is legal. I have done it in the reno casinos a number of times.

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Does your Nevada CCW permit allow you to carry in the casinos or is there a law against carrying in the casinos due to the alcohol sales?
With a valid CCW permit (NV, AK, AR, FL, LA, MO, NE, TN, UT), you can carry just about anywhere in NV.
Only places restricted are "public buildings".
"Public buildings" are defined by NV law [NRS 202.3673] as 'any building or office space occupied by: (1) Any component of the Nevada System of Higher Education and used for any purpose related to the System; or (2) The Federal Government, the State of Nevada or any county, city, school district or other political subdivision of the State of Nevada and used for any public purpose.'

So, if it's not a "public building", you can legally carry in there.
You may encounter buildings/businesses with "no weapons" signs and/or metal detectors posted at their entrances, but they have no legal weight and is a tresspassing charge if you get caught in there and refuse to leave the property.


According to NV law [NRS 202.257], you can legally consume alcohol while carrying concealed. You just have to make sure your BAC is under .10.


So, keep your handgun(s) concealed [even though NV is an open carry state, walking around with an exposed handgun tends to scare the tourists, which displeases the casinos and LE] and drink responsibily while carrying in NV.
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According to NV law [NRS 202.257], you can legally consume alcohol while carrying concealed. You just have to make sure your BAC is under .10.
................. and drink responsibly while carrying in NV.
It may be legal to drink "responsibly" while CCW in Nevada but it's not very smart.

If you ever need to defend yourself or a family member, you need your wits about you. You want a clear mind and self-defense skills that are not impaired in any way. You'll want all the tactical advantage you can get.

You also should consider all the ramifications of defending yourself in a civil trial following a self-defense shooting.

IMHO - Indulging in any activity that causes physical or mental impairment while CCW is irresponsible.

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It may be legal to drink "responsibly" while CCW in Nevada but it's not very smart.

If you ever need to defend yourself or a family member, you need your wits about you. You want a clear mind and self-defense skills that are not impaired in any way. You'll want all the tactical advantage you can get.

You also should consider all the ramifications of defending yourself in a civil trial following a self-defense shooting.

IMHO - Indulging in any activity that causes physical or mental impairment while CCW is irresponsible.

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While I agree drinking and guns don't mix, I see nothing wrong with having a beer or a glass of wine with a dinner and if someone was CCW under these circumstances, I would not have a problem with it. No different that driving a car under the same circumstances.
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It may be legal to drink "responsibly" while CCW in Nevada but it's not very smart.
IMHO - Indulging in any activity that causes physical or mental impairment while CCW is irresponsible.

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True.
Same can be said for operating a motor vehicle. But, sadly millions of people drink & drive every day.

I just find it interesting that NV law is more stricter on DUI (BAC 0.08) than it is while being in control of a firearm while intoxicated (BAC 0.10).

I believe the NV legislature realize that a majority of citizens that carry conceal are responsible and are more lenient towards them on the matter of alcohol consumption. I also think that the law was written the way it is, in order to cover off-duty LEOs that carry and drink.

My friends and I have always gone off the principle that the designated driver is also the designated CCW. But, if the law says it's okay to have a drink while carrying, then I'm not going to judge you if you do.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:47 PM
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Does your Nevada CCW permit allow you to carry in the casinos or is there a law against carrying in the casinos due to the alcohol sales?

That is right, my instructor says you can carry in casino, but you need to concealed carry, not opened carry.

Above the message, right don't mix alcohol and gun while you are in casino. You may be revoked ccw license from LVMPD if you caught.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:40 PM
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According to NV law [NRS 202.257], you can legally consume alcohol while carrying concealed. You just have to make sure your BAC is under .10.
That's probably one of the worst written laws I think I have ever seen. To say that you can be more intoxicated while carrying a firearm than you can while driving a car is ridiculous. Firearms and alcohol shouldn't be mixed if you are a responsible gun owner. It's one or the other.

Even responsible LEOs can do some really stupid things while carrying and being drunk. I know one former LEO that drew his firearm and fired off several shots in the air when he was drunk. And yes, the "former" description was because of this event. I know another that drew his weapon while in a bar so he could show it to a buddy. I saw him do this. Neither of these guys would have done this while sober.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:15 PM
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That's probably one of the worst written laws I think I have ever seen. To say that you can be more intoxicated while carrying a firearm than you can while driving a car is ridiculous. Firearms and alcohol shouldn't be mixed if you are a responsible gun owner. It's one or the other.

Even responsible LEOs can do some really stupid things while carrying and being drunk. I know one former LEO that drew his firearm and fired off several shots in the air when he was drunk. And yes, the "former" description was because of this event. I know another that drew his weapon while in a bar so he could show it to a buddy. I saw him do this. Neither of these guys would have done this while sober.

Have there been a lot of incidents with CCW holders acting irresponsible while drinking in Nevada? I think the legislature would change the law if it turned out to be a problem, I believe it has not. I personally don't drink much I on occasion have a beer or glass of wine with dinner and don't find it irresponsible to do so and drive afterwards and if it were legal in California to CCW I don't think it would be irresponsible to CCW either. Remember it is legal to Drink and drive afterwards as long as you do so within the parameters set forth in the law which is a BAC of .08 or less, I don't think having those same reasonable parameters for CCW holders is unreasonable. Why Nevada has .10 for CCW and .08 for DUI is beyond me, but I personally think its more dangerous to DUI than CCW with a BAC of .10, however I would not oppose the law to be .08 for both.
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