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Old 05-13-2009, 09:30 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The Senate on Tuesday voted in favor of a measure, 67-29, that would allow Americans to carry firearms in national parks, if their state laws permit them to possess a gun, with 27 Democrats voting in support.

But because the measure was passed as an amendment to a broader bill seeking reform of the credit card industry, the move jeopardizes the reform bill, whose lead sponsor, Sen. Chris Dodd, opposed the firearm amendment.

The amendment was sponsored by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who has been fighting for some time for the measure. Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, voted against the Coburn amendment.

Dodd voiced concern that, as amended, his credit card reform bill could meet the same fate as the D.C. voting rights bill, which was sidelined in the House when it was amended to allow residents of the District of Columbia to carry guns.

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Old 05-13-2009, 03:49 PM
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WASHINGTON -- The Senate on Tuesday voted in favor of a measure, 67-29, that would allow Americans to carry firearms in national parks, if their state laws permit them to possess a gun, with 27 Democrats voting in support.

But because the measure was passed as an amendment to a broader bill seeking reform of the credit card industry, the move jeopardizes the reform bill, whose lead sponsor, Sen. Chris Dodd, opposed the firearm amendment.

The amendment was sponsored by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who has been fighting for some time for the measure. Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, voted against the Coburn amendment.

Dodd voiced concern that, as amended, his credit card reform bill could meet the same fate as the D.C. voting rights bill, which was sidelined in the House when it was amended to allow residents of the District of Columbia to carry guns.

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Either way it goes is good. The government should stay out of private credit concerns, but CCW should be allowed everywhere... even in parks. Gun free means defenseless targets.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:13 PM
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Either way it goes is good. The government should stay out of private credit concerns, but CCW should be allowed everywhere... even in parks. Gun free means defenseless targets.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:27 AM
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OK, so what does this all mean? I am leaving for Utah tomorrow visiting National parks in Utah,Wyoming and Idaho. I have Utah,Nevada and Calif. CCW, can I pack or unload and case it? Thanks
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OK, so what does this all mean? I am leaving for Utah tomorrow visiting National parks in Utah,Wyoming and Idaho. I have Utah,Nevada and Calif. CCW, can I pack or unload and case it? Thanks
Apprently we are all legally defenseless in the National Park system.
Funny how ONE MAN in a gov't position can screw us all. That stinks
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:36 AM
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OK, so what does this all mean? I am leaving for Utah tomorrow visiting National parks in Utah,Wyoming and Idaho. I have Utah,Nevada and Calif. CCW, can I pack or unload and case it? Thanks
I believe that technically to remain legal under the current legislation/rules, you must unload and either lock in a case, or disassemble the gun before entering any national park, even if you have the right to CCW in the state where the park is.
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