Just got this e-mail from Chief Paul Walters at Santa Ana PD. - Page 3

Rob_G · #31 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 04:47 PM

So I could swear that one of the Supervisors had said that Walters had expressed essentially a non-issue CCW policy during his interview process. I think it was Norby or Campbell.

I think I remember a similar OC register article.

Am I misremembering?

**RomanDad** · #32 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_G

So I could swear that one of the Supervisors had said that Walters had expressed essentially a non-issue CCW policy during his interview process. I think it was Norby or Campbell.

I think I remember a similar OC register article.

Am I misremembering?

Moorlach said "You wouldnt like Paul Walter's on this issue."

Coming from a guy who keeps Mario Mainero on his payroll, his credibility is zero. BUT... Walters QUICKLY sent a letter refuting the comment to the register.

**PirateQueen** · #33 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DVSmith

I understand and share everybody's concerns in this regard, especially after the Appointed Sheriff led the BOS to beleive that she would support CCW and then more narrowly defined good cause.

I don't know if you will ever get a candidate to utter the name Carona in any positive way, so referring to his CCW policy is probably out of the question.

After having had an opportunity to meet with the Chief and discuss this very issue, I will say I am convinced he will be the candidate I support should he run. Without question.

They don't have to mention Mr. Carona, all Walters has to say is when elected I will have the most well armed county in the state. This county will be better then ever able to protect its citizens and it self from criminals.

**X-ffdo** · #34 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 05:00 PM

Carona is disgraced, right or wrong, he is history. I would not mention his name now, no need. I don't think anyone would.

**THE Gimper** · #35 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RomanDad

Moorlach said "You wouldnt like Paul Walter's on this issue."

Coming from a guy who keeps Mario Mainero on his payroll, his credibility is zero. BUT... Walters QUICKLY sent a letter refuting the comment to the register.

At this point, I would trust anything Moorlach says on this issue. And keep in mind, Walters hasn't yet said he will run, so, when he wrote his letter setting the record straight in response to Moorlach's statement, he wasn't campaigning. He just wanted to set the record straight.

**X-ffdo** · #36 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by THE Gimper

At this point, I would trust anything Moorlach says on this issue. And keep in mind, Walters hasn't yet said he will run, so, when he wrote his letter setting the record straight in response to Moorlach's statement, he wasn't campaigning. He just wanted to set the record straight.

Excellent point, at that time the man had nothing to gain.....make a note of that!

**THE Gimper** · #37 (**permalink**) 05-08-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by X-ffdo

Excellent point, at that time the man had nothing to gain.....make a note of that!

Exactly. Let's put this in context. On November 18th of last year, we had 250 people show up to the Board of Supervisors meeting to protest Sheriff Hutchens more restrictive policy. More than 60 of us spoke. We advocated that the Sheriff adopt a less restrictive (more reasonable) standard for good cause. The Board passed a resolution urging her to do the same.

Moorlach made his statement about Chief Walters' position on CCW and Chief Walters made this statement in response:

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I have never supported, advocated or believed in the restrictive, newly revised, extremely limited good-cause standard as put forth by the current Sheriff... My process would be responsive to the wishes of most County residents - that being the CCW policy have a legitimate background check, be transparent, open, consistent, ethical, and have a reasonable good-cause standard.

We are those residents. We were the ones speaking up against the current policy (which Walters stated he also does not support). So, when he speaks of "a reasonable good-cause standard" he is saying exactly what we are saying.

As to Moorlach's statement, I have read statements he's made in emails to individuals who have written to him regarding Sheriff Hutchens' policy, where he says that he doesn't think her policy is restrictive, that she's made common sense changes, and many other things in defense of her CCW policy. So, who are you going to belive.

I believe Walters.

**THE Gimper** · #38 (**permalink**) 05-09-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

I'd like to hear a statement from that he will issue for personal protection to anyone that is qualified to get a CCW. Nobody will get my vote until I hear that.

His past statement of "...reasonable good-cause standard" is meaningless to me. Hutchens' good cause standard is reasonable to her.

As I mentioned, I've met the Chief and I had a chance to discuss this issue with him. Here's what he said to me, "We need to get guns out of the hands of criminals, not law abiding citizens. If you are of good moral character, pass a background check, and pass the training class, I don't see any reason not to issue you a permit."

It doesn't get much plainer than that, folks.

protectmine · #39 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by THE Gimper

As I mentioned, I've met the Chief and I had a chance to discuss this issue with him. Here's what he said to me, "We need to get guns out of the hands of criminals, not law abiding citizens. If you are of good moral character, pass a background check, and pass the training class, I don't see any reason not to issue you a permit."

It doesn't get much plainer than that, folks.

I can second that.

jdoane9724 · #40 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 12:14 PM

Since I live in LA County, who knows if there's anyone running that would be a good replacement for Baca? I want to get behind them NOW!!!!

tango-52 · #41 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jdoane9724

Since I live in LA County, who knows if there's anyone running that would be a good replacement for Baca? I want to get behind them NOW!!!!

Vote for Carmen Trutanich on May 19th for L.A. City Attorney. He is a step in the right direction.

**RomanDad** · #42 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jdoane9724

Since I live in LA County, who knows if there's anyone running that would be a good replacement for Baca? I want to get behind them NOW!!!!

Weve got some interesting information re: Los angeles.... Thats all I can say for now.

jdoane9724 · #43 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 11:06 PM

RD,

Thanks for the encouragement. Can I hear more via PM?

Carmen Trutanich? OK, I'll check him out.

BTW, how about Villaragosa?

jdoane9724 · #44 (**permalink**) 05-10-2009, 11:20 PM

Carmen Trutanich has been endorsed by Lee Baca, another individual those desiring CWPs want out.

Are you SURE he's the guy?

**RomanDad** · #45 (**permalink**) 05-11-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jdoane9724

RD,

Thanks for the encouragement. Can I hear more via PM?

Nope.... Sorry.

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Originally Posted by jdoane9724

Carmen Trutanich has been endorsed by Lee Baca, another individual those desiring CWPs want out.

Are you SURE he's the guy?

City attorney has no impact on CCWs... He is however a hell of a better choice than Jack Weiss.

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