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Old 02-08-2009, 04:59 PM
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Default BOS can't remove J. Edgar Hutchens

They (Nguyen, Bates and Campbell) voted her in now thay can't do anything to remove her. Once in, thats it unless there be an election or recall.

FYI: The wheels are all ready to come off the bus. Go to this story on the register and comment - Former Sheriff's advisor named in class action lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars | property, george, investors, properties, market - News - OCRegister.com

The only horse we lick is that which has come off the BBQ with lots of Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce. ONce you've eaten horse...well....you know...it tastes like chicken.

Keep up the pressure on Sheraff.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:06 PM
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They (Nguyen, Bates and Campbell) voted her in now thay can't do anything to remove her. Once in, thats it unless there be an election or recall.

FYI: The wheels are all ready to come off the bus. Go to this story on the register and comment - Former Sheriff's advisor named in class action lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars | property, george, investors, properties, market - News - OCRegister.com

The only horse we lick is that which has come off the BBQ with lots of Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce. Once you've eaten horse...well....you know...it tastes like chicken.

Keep up the pressure on Sheraff.
Election, recall oh and there is always RESIGNATION! The day she resigns is the day I know she actually cared about the constiguents she is supposed to be serving in this county.

Oh man heading to you link! What could be next?! I am so embarresed for our county!
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:28 PM
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They (Nguyen, Bates and Campbell) voted her in now thay can't do anything to remove her. Once in, thats it unless there be an election or recall.

FYI: The wheels are all ready to come off the bus. Go to this story on the register and comment - Former Sheriff's advisor named in class action lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars | property, george, investors, properties, market - News - OCRegister.com

The only horse we lick is that which has come off the BBQ with lots of Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce. ONce you've eaten horse...well....you know...it tastes like chicken.

Keep up the pressure on Sheraff.
Thanks for the link. IIRC, Nguyen, Bates & Moorlach voted for her.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:35 PM
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Thanks for the link. IIRC, Nguyen, Bates & Moorlach voted for her.
You recall correctly, Ken.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:44 PM
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posted earlier. pretty much par for the course
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They (Nguyen, Bates and Campbell) voted her in now thay can't do anything to remove her. Once in, thats it unless there be an election or recall.

FYI: The wheels are all ready to come off the bus. Go to this story on the register and comment - Former Sheriff's advisor named in class action lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars | property, george, investors, properties, market - News - OCRegister.com

The only horse we lick is that which has come off the BBQ with lots of Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce. ONce you've eaten horse...well....you know...it tastes like chicken.

Keep up the pressure on Sheraff.
I just noticed the title of your post.
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The CA DOJ has aligned itself with the sheriff, by changing the computer system they have enabled this sheriff to pull this stunt!
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Must be OK with the top gun, Moonbeam Brown. State has no money, buts finds some for this stunt.. go figure.
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
The problem is that the Sheriff's position is elected, same as the Supervisors. This would be like saying the Congress can remove the President if they don't like the way he is running things. Well, we saw how much impeaching Clinton actually got him thrown out.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:52 PM
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The problem is that the Sheriff's position is elected, same as the Supervisors. This would be like saying the Congress can remove the President if they don't like the way he is running things. Well, we saw how much impeaching Clinton actually got him thrown out.
Actually, they sort of can remove the President... but it takes BOTH houses of Congress and a 2/3 majority vote of the Senate but the process could only start in cases of: treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors... If the President doesn't do any of those things... or has enough political support, he won't get removed from office. Remember Bill Clinton? He LIED under oath. He WAS impeached. He just wasn't convicted and therefore wasn't removed from office. He likely was protected by the fact that there wasn't a supermajority in the Senate, and in any event, the vote never did reach the required 2/3 to convict...
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
Good talking point.
It should be brought up at the meeting. It may not do anything but bring the fact that as an old adage says, "He who stumbles upon the same rock twice, deserves to have his legs broken"
Someone must establish some kind of learning curve here!!!
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:04 PM
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
Gee, maybe we can just move her expiration date up .... a quick call to the AG should allow us to change the CA constituion ...... it's been done before.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:16 AM
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
Another problem is, it wasn't an Orange County rule that allowed them to fill the vacancy. It's part of state law.

California Govement Code.

25304. The board of supervisors shall fill by appointment all
vacancies that occur in any office filled by the appointment of the
board and elective county officers, except judge of the superior
court and supervisors. The appointee shall hold office for the
unexpired term or until the first Monday after January lst succeeding
the next general election.

So they can't just pass a rule change. The law would have to be changed.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:25 AM
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OK, this is just wishful thinking, but why can't the BOS pass a change in the rules that ALLOWS them to boot out a rogue official? Seems like this type of thing keeps repeating. You can tell me why this is a bad idea, and I know nothing about the rules of the road for boards of supervisors or county government, but at the moment, it sounds like a great idea. Does this type of thing need to be voted on at the next election? Seems like it might pass--in case this happens again, and again, and again.
I recall something like this being brought up a while back but not sure what happened to it. I know a lot of people didn't want them to be able to do this because the very people that could remove someone, were the very people that were exempt from this - the BoS.
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