Early Expirations Starting In MARCH 2009!!!!!

[naganthunter]

Wow. This shows me two possible scenarios:

1. She told the BoS this lie, knowing full well what was going on.

2. She told the BoS this info as she really has no clue as to what is going on.

In either case, this is not the person I want overseeing the law enforcement agency that is responsible for keeping my family safe.

[G36 Steve]

I can see the writing on the wall with this. The CLEOs will see this as a new revenue generator. Permits in my county are issued for 6 months. At the end of six months you can re-apply and pay your fees and we'll see what happens.
This is Tora-caca!

I wonder which department is the other one referred to that wants this change.

[right2defend]

Why can't the BOS just remove her from office. She has definitely lied and deceived them.

[YankeeDog]

Why can't the BOS just remove her from office. She has definitely lied and deceived them.

What is the procedure for removal of the Sheriff? Does the BOS have the legal grounds to remove her or is it a recall election?

Inquiring minds want to know

YD

[right2defend]

I wouldn't think it would take a recall election as she was never elected to the position. She was appointed by a few board members, who most likely, never realized what a headache this was going to cause them.

[Harry Carry]

She can be recalled, even though she was appointed to the elected position. It would take appx. 160,000 signatures just to get it on the ballot.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by G30 Steve

I can see the writing on the wall with this. The CLEOs will see this as a new revenue generator. Permits in my county are issued for 6 months. At the end of six months you can re-apply and pay your fees and we'll see what happens.
This is Tora-caca!

It's far worse than that. "Your permit is valid for 18 months." "Wait. Now your permit is only valid until tomorrow." It certainly is a money generator, and paying all the fees for your license becomes a crap shoot.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by Harry Carry

She can be recalled, even though she was appointed to the elected position. It would take appx. 160,000 signatures just to get it on the ballot.

And by the time you raised the money to pay the people to collect the signatures, collected them, and got it on a special ballot, you'd be right up against the election date in 2010 anyway.

[THE Gimper]

I just sent this email to Steve Greenhut at the OC Register.

Alarming Ramifications of Sheriff Hutchens' Actions

Dear Mr. Greenhut,

As you know, Sheriff Hutchens originally planned to revoke over 400 CCW permits from law-abiding citizens who have not broken any law, or in any way violated the terms of their permits. Because of the public outcry over the potential for actual harm being done to those citizens by having a black mark put on their records, the Sheriff has announced a plan to "expire early" the permits of anyone who voluntarily surrenders theirs in order to avoid the black mark of a revocation on their records. To that end, it has been learned that she has been aided by the collusion of officials at the California DOJ, who are going to alter their database in order to allow her to take this action.

As a fellow libertarian, I'm sure you can appreciate that the consequences of these actions are disturbing, to say the least -- and not just for CCW. This fundamentally changes everything about the way citizens of this state relate to their government. If the Sheriff is allowed to arbitrarily change the expiration date of CCW licenses which have already been issued (and for which the holders of those permits paid all of the required fees) who's to say that other government officials can't, and won't arbitrarily change the expiration date of other licenses whenever they feel like it? Imagine receiving a letter like this someday soon,

"Dear Mr. Greenhut,

This letter is to inform you that you business license which was due to expire 12/31/09, will now expire tomorrow. You must immediately cease all operations. You are welcome to reapply and submit the appropriate fees to have your license renewed for a period as yet undetermined.

Sincerely,

Your government"

As Supervisor Norby pointed out in his recent guest editorial, this is at the level of contract law, and is fundamental to the way we govern ourselves, and the way in which our society works. If a citizen cannot count on the terms of a contract being honored by his government, we are now being governed by the whim of those in power. That is dictatorship, not democracy.

I urge you to continue to sound the alarm on this matter.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXXX

[RomanDad]

Excellent.

[Barky]

Great work.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by RomanDad

Excellent.

I think I just found my talking point for the meeting on the 10th. This must be stopped.

[Dan M.]

GO RICO! You are truly the THE.

[SierraNevadaCCW]

I can't wait to watch you bring up that point, Rico.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by THE Gimper

I think I just found my talking point for the meeting on the 10th. This must be stopped.

YOU are the man for the job!!! This new development is about as scary as it gets!!!!!

To everybody else.........................WE NEED YOU THERE NEXT TUESDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING LIKE MINDED FRIENDS! Every person I talk to who has no desire for a CCW is still incensed by what the department leadership is doing. They are signing on like crazy!!!!! You all do the same! We are fighting for what is right!

JOIN US!!!!!!!