Revocations are back on track at OCSD

[Gladiator]

Last Thursday CA-DOJ had a meeting at 2:30 pm. They decided to allow the SHEriff of OCSD to use "CCW-expired" That way it doesn't not reflect poorly on CLETS.

The only problem with this is it is not legal, expiration is covered by Penal Code. Two years after date of issuance for a general CCW.

[spc]

I guess the powers that be do not have to follow the law.

spc

[G36 Steve]

Originally Posted by spc

I guess the powers that be do not have to follow the law.

spc

Welcome to California Politics.

[THE Gimper]

What happened to "I have to follow the law"? I thought OC residents were going to be happy to have an administration that was scrupulously following the law.

[BonoVox]

Since she is expiring them early against Penal Code. I assume we will be getting our prorated fees and expenses back from the OCSD.

[SierraNevadaCCW]

So basically, we have conspiracy to commit a crime and the crime itself, between the chief law enforcement officer in your county, along with the chief law enforcement agency in the State. Perfect. So much for justice, right and wrong, duty to follow the law and honesty. The people should get their guns and the reckless, indifferent and dishonest government should turn theirs in.

[hotwls13]

Originally Posted by BonoVox

Since she is expiring them early against Penal Code. I assume we will be getting our prorated fees and expenses back from the OCSD.

Not to mention costs for the class (including time spent), costs for your holster and belt, costs for time spent at the range, costs for ammo and your CCW firearm, cost for your combox, etc. etc.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by hotwls13

Not to mention costs for the class (including time spent), costs for your holster and belt, costs for time spent at the range, costs for ammo and your CCW firearm, cost for your combox, etc. etc.

You can believe the cost of the mandated class will be included along with other fees in my bill to the County.

[PUNK]

Originally Posted by BonoVox

Since she is expiring them early against Penal Code. I assume we will be getting our prorated fees and expenses back from the OCSD.

i certainly will try if the time comes for me.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Gladiator

The only problem with this is it is not legal, expiration is covered by Penal Code. Two years after date of issuance for a general CCW.

What is the penal code for that?

[rundmlee]

If one has a CCW and decided not to renewal. After it expires, is it the usual case that it CLETS will indicate "CCW expired"?

If revocations do go out, will DoJ record indicate "CCW revoked" or "CCW expired", as on CLETS? I can see applying for future or other CCW permits: Have you ever been revoked? Answer: No, but I had my CA CCW go through forced early expiration...

[CCWInstructor]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

What is the penal code for that?

Start with 12050 is stated right there. Two year general permit. Not 12 months or 18.

[EM2]

Originally Posted by hotwls13

Not to mention costs for the class (including time spent), costs for your holster and belt, costs for time spent at the range, costs for ammo and your CCW firearm, cost for your combox, etc. etc.

What about emotional distress.
My blood pressure is rising and I'm not even from OC.

ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS!!!

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by CCWInstructor

Start with 12050 is stated right there. Two year general permit. Not 12 months or 18.

Thank you CCWI...I thought it was in there, but the site kept sending me to 12025 on searches...

Edit to add:

I am concerned about this:

12050 (a) (2) (A) (i) Except as otherwise provided in clause (ii),
subparagraphs (C) and (D) of this paragraph, and subparagraph (B) of
paragraph (4) of subdivision (f), a license issued pursuant to
subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) is valid for any period of
time not to exceed two years from the date of the license.

Playing the devils advocate here, but that sounds like they can validate them for any period UP TO 2 years...that they aren't bound by law.

12050. (a) (1) (A) The sheriff of a county, upon proof that the
person applying is of good moral character, that good cause exists
for the issuance, and that the person applying satisfies any one of
the conditions specified in subparagraph (D) and has completed a
course of training as described in subparagraph (E), may issue to
that person a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm
capable of being concealed upon the person in either one of the
following formats:
(i) A license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(ii) Where the population of the county is less than 200,000
persons according to the most recent federal decennial census, a
license to carry loaded and exposed in that county a pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
person.
(B) The chief or other head of a municipal police department of
any city or city and county, upon proof that the person applying is
of good moral character, that good cause exists for the issuance, and
that the person applying is a resident of that city and has
completed a course of training as described in subparagraph (E), may
issue to that person a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in either one of
the following formats:
(i) A license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(ii) Where the population of the county in which the city is
located is less than 200,000 persons according to the most recent
federal decennial census, a license to carry loaded and exposed in
that county a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person.

I am not saying anyone is wrong...I am not clear on this, and hope someone can clear it up.

[Ken_In_Colo]

Originally Posted by THE Gimper

What happened to "I have to follow the law"? I thought OC residents were going to be happy to have an administration that was scrupulously following the law.

Rico, I guess she doesn't have to follow that law.

I think that's what elitists do. Decide which laws they want to enforce/follow.