Revoked CCW and your CII number.

[Gladiator]

The SHEriff stated on Tuesday that a revoke of your CCW stays on your CII (Criminal Identification and Information, issued by CA-DOJ) number for 90 days. She is as usual, incorrect.

I ran two ID's today that somebody (thanks! for all the names) said had revoked CCW's from 1999 and 2007. The revoked CCW's showed up for both. These two were revoked by OCSD.

I then ran two names for two other agencies that were both revoked in 1986. They both showed up too.

The SHEriff is checking with DOJ to determine the impact, if any, of a revocation based solely on lack of good cause. Bottom line, it will show up as a state license that has been revoked. And as I just have proven, it WILL follow you forever.

Anymore questions?

[PirateQueen]

Since the first BOS meeting I went to I have been asking myself a question that keeps resurfacing with greater frequency.
How can someone with so little knowledge of the law be in such a position? I lost count of how many times I heard "I don't know" "I wasn't aware of that being the case".

[akulahawk]

She's not supposed to be a lawyer...

[Scout]

Let's look at GW.

When he ran for president, he didn't have a clue.

Don't get me wrong. I voted for him, just because of that.

People who don't have a clue, usually make good decisions, because their decisions is based on the unknown and not on some old decreped DEM's thoughts.

Remember, the key word is USUALLY.

[inboost]

So this begs the question:

Is there a graceful way to surrender a CCW without it precluding one from every having one again? If one were to surrender incorrectly it could obviously be used against a future application.

How can we make it "I quit" instead of "You're fired"?

[OCCCW]

Originally Posted by PirateQueen

Since the first BOS meeting I went to I have been asking myself a question that keeps resurfacing with greater frequency.
How can someone with so little knowledge of the law be in such a position? I lost count of how many times I heard "I don't know" "I wasn't aware of that being the case".

I would suppose then you will be available as an expert witness?

[AMS MIKE]

This is our freakin SHEriff and she has no freakin clue what is legal/illegal or right/wrong.

[Ken_In_Colo]

Originally Posted by Gladiator

The SHEriff stated on Tuesday that a revoke of your CCW stays on your CII (Criminal Identification and Information, issued by CA-DOJ) number for 90 days. She is as usual, incorrect.

I ran two ID's today that somebody (thanks! for all the names) said had revoked CCW's from 1999 and 2007. The revoked CCW's showed up for both. These two were revoked by OCSD.

I then ran two names for two other agencies that were both revoked in 1986. They both showed up too.

The SHEriff is checking with DOJ to determine the impact, if any, of a revocation based solely on lack of good cause. Bottom line, it will show up as a state license that has been revoked. And as I just have proven, it WILL follow you forever.

Anymore questions?

Beautiful. She just makes these statements and thinks that because she is the sheriff, no one will challenge her. Nice going Gladiator. How long before the BOS get updated on this latest... ahem ...misstatement?

[THE Gimper]

[spc]

Originally Posted by THE Gimper

Nice smilie Rico

spc

[YankeeDog]

Bottom line, it will show up as a state license that has been revoked. And as I just have proven, it WILL follow you forever.

This may disqualify an individual from serving on the Grand Jury or may even prevent you from being employed by a defense contractor, if a security clearance was required. From my point-of-view this may be libelous.

YD

[99sparks]

Originally Posted by YankeeDog

This may disqualify an individual from serving on the Grand Jury or may even prevent you from being employed by a defense contractor, if a security clearance was required. From my point-of-view this may be libelous.

YD

So... if you already work for a defense contractor and do not require a security clearance... then apply for a position that requires one... or was denied in the past…for no given reason… you are just out of luck?

[TaxMan]

Originally Posted by 99sparks

So... if you already work for a defense contractor and do not require a security clearance... then apply for a position that requires one... or was denied in the past…for no given reason… you are just out of luck?

Possibly.

[Ken_In_Colo]

If you are denied a security clearance or your current one is revoked because of a CCW revocation I'm thinking that you would have a dream lawsuit.

I'm thinking maybe 8 figures $$,$$$,$$$.$$

The county would just love that.

That's why I think she's gonna have a change of heart towards the people w/security clearances whom she's revoking/denying renewals.

[G30 Steve]

Originally Posted by 99sparks

So... if you already work for a defense contractor and do not require a security clearance... then apply for a position that requires one... or was denied in the past…for no given reason… you are just out of luck?

Or, even worse; If you have a clearance you must update your clearance periodically. During a periodic update any negative information can be used to revoke your clearance. If revoked, it most likely means you would no longer eligible to remain in your current position.