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10-21-2008, 06:29 PM
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The SHEriff is issuing CCW's, with restrictions!
The word from PSD is restrictions are being typed on new CCW's. "course & scope of business only". That means you can only carry when your Good Cause is in effect.
Example: Your good cause is you are a Jeweler, you carry diamonds around. You can then only CCW when transporting them.
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10-21-2008, 06:34 PM
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10-24-2008, 06:29 PM
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It’s very naïve to think that someone who carries diamonds for work is only vulnerable while working. How about kidnapping for a diamond ransom? After all, the victim obviously has access to diamonds, regardless if they are actually carrying them.
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10-24-2008, 06:40 PM
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So so so true! 
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10-24-2008, 08:22 PM
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10-24-2008, 11:47 PM
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10-25-2008, 10:47 AM
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So the bad guys are only going to target a known jeweler when he/she has some diamonds in the pocket? ppppfffft!
I suppose some of the less-than-honest jewelers may start carrying around a small bag of cheapo product 24/7 to protect themselves. What about those folks that follow the law? Again, they get screwed. This sucks! 
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10-25-2008, 01:38 PM
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10-25-2008, 06:00 PM
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That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there! - George Orwell, Orwell: The Authorized Biography (1940) by Michael Shelden There already are 20,000 federal gun laws and regulations on the books. If those laws haven't made America safe by now, why should we think 20,001 laws will suffice?- Harry Brown, Libertarian
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10-25-2008, 07:57 PM
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10-29-2008, 01:31 PM
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So you might be driving around with a concealed (locked, empty) gun, in your trunk--so that at a certain time of day, you might need the gun for business.
Isnt this a violation in and of itself? Checked out 12026.2 and 12027, no exception for this seems to exist. Maybe I am missing it, but according to Machtinger there is NOT an exception in this situation.
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10-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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Page 51-65 explains it (concealed gun law vs. loaded gun law) while traveling in the car
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10-30-2008, 11:40 AM
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"Let your gun be your constant companion on all your walks." Jefferson "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Lama "Gun bans don't disarm criminals, gun bans attract them." Walter Mondale, VP "Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing." Sammy "The Bull" Gravano "A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." Lenin, Creator of USSR "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms" Hitler "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, Father of the Bill of Rights "I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor." Gandhi The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government." Hubert H Humphrey, VP "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life." John F Kennedy "Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." Heinrich Himmler, Head of Nazi SS "Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy." George Orwell "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in their government." Jefferson "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." Luke 22:36
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10-30-2008, 11:46 AM
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If you are transporting firearms to and from a known location, those laws may cover it, but if you are "on call" such as a technician, nurse, doctor, who knows what, you are not really covered by those laws--it just looks like you are driving around town with a locked CONCEALED gun in your trunk--clearly a violation. What do you guys think?
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10-30-2008, 12:10 PM
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Now I am completely confused. I was under the impression that as long as the pistol was stored unloaded and in a locked container that is not permanently attached to the vehicle, that it does that matter where that container resides. The passenger seat should be fine. I seem to remember a similar discussion on Calguns that said the same thing - however I have less faith in them than most sites. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding the law. As for just driving around I think that any destination that you choose to be heading is where you're transporting your pistol. Who is to say that you aren't taking your shiny new BFG9000 to your Aunt Mary's house for safe keeping.
Here is Open Carry's PDF on the subject. Edit: Added Calguns Link. Last edited by sholling : 10-30-2008 at 12:21 PM.
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