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10-05-2008, 09:37 PM
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Next BOS meeting 10/07/08
The SHEriff is going to update the BOS with her 120 day State of the Sheriff Department.
Several people who have been sent revocation letters and some people that have been denied on renewal are going to be there speaking before the BOS. If you have received "the letter" or denied, you might want to show up. http://egov.ocgov.com/vgnfiles/ocgov...tgSchedule.pdf If you need more information, PM me.
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10-06-2008, 07:35 PM
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I jsut received a call from one of the Board Of Supervisors ENCOURAGING a strong showing from us on this....
PLEASE COME IF THERE IS ANY WAY YOU CAN!!!
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10-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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bump, I think we really need to get a show of support here, the meeting starts at 9:00am, even if we have to sit around for hours until our items come up, its important to go. Remember, we are only through the B's, and a lot are being revoked, as citizens we should show our outrage and displeasure with her practices--unfortunately a show of unhappy citizens must be done in person---to quote McCain, you can't just "phone it in".
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10-06-2008, 09:40 PM
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10-06-2008, 09:45 PM
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Orange County sheriff outlines gains in the department - Los Angeles Times
Orange County sheriff outlines gains in the department Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times A day before her State of the Department report to the Board of Supervisors, Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens said at a meeting with reporters on Monday that morale has improved during her first 109 days in office. A day before delivering her State of the Department report, Sandra Hutchens says there has been a boost in morale and oversight during her first 109 days in office. By H.G. Reza, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer October 7, 2008 More than one hundred days into her tenure, Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens said deputies' morale has improved, and she blamed her predecessor for the malaise that was sapping the department when she took office. Hutchens did not mention Michael S. Carona by name in a meeting with reporters Monday, but a department spokesman said she had the former sheriff in mind when she said accountability starts at the top. She blamed him for a culture that allowed top-ranking managers to sidestep accountability. "There was a lack of leadership from what I saw," Hutchens said. "There was turmoil at the top of the organization and a lack of focus. There were individuals not doing their jobs and who felt they could not be held accountable." The department was in disarray, policies and procedures ignored, she said. Employees "felt beat up" by the unceasing news coverage of Carona's legal troubles, grand jury investigations of the department-run jails and probes by other law enforcement agencies, Hutchens said. Carona resigned in January to concentrate on his upcoming federal corruption trial. Jury selection is underway in the case. George Jaramillo, former assistant sheriff and Carona's top administrator, pleaded no contest in Orange County Superior Court to lying to a grand jury and unauthorized use of a county helicopter. He served one year in jail. Jaramillo also pleaded guilty in federal court to tax charges and agreed to testify against Carona. Donald Haidl, another former assistant sheriff and fundraiser for Carona, also pleaded guilty to federal tax charges and is cooperating with prosecutors in their case against the former sheriff. Haidl was once one of Carona's closest associates. Hutchens outlined in broad terms the changes she has made so far in the department and will deliver a State of the Department report to the Board of Supervisors today, her 110th day in office. That assessment will be a more complete rundown of the top to bottom changes she has made. On Monday, Hutchens said she was surprised to learn that "mechanisms that you would expect to be in place" to identify "rogue employees" early on were missing. That has changed, and deputies have gotten the message of accountability, she said. Hutchens said she has also identified training needs and moved to address them. One area that needed improvement, she said, was leadership assessment of the department's sergeants who fill key supervisory ranks. In a major change, Hutchens said, she has adopted a hands-off policy of sorts when issuing concealed weapons permits. A special unit is reviewing more than 1,000 permits issued by Carona and will decide if an applicant should be allowed to carry a weapon. Hutchens said there is still room for improvement and that employees are reacting positively to the changes. Previous attempts to make changes in the department were "short-stopped at the top levels," she said. "It was referred to as the black hole. Nothing would get done." hgreza@latimes.com
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10-06-2008, 09:51 PM
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They didnt mention that the special unit is headed up by a deputy who's son killed himself with a handgun last year?
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10-06-2008, 10:48 PM
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I am going to give every effort to be there. I am hitting my office early tomorrow morning. If it does not start off to a rocky start I will be there.
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10-07-2008, 12:09 AM
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We need everybody who can make it to go. I'm at a large LEO convention. I can't make it.
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10-07-2008, 12:40 PM
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Does anyone have the video link to watch this?
Nevermind, I found it.
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How're we gonna shoot golf without guns? "It's 2am, do you know where your firearms are?" - In honor of Dennis Farina When the Boogeyman goes to bed, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~Ronald Reagan If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective. You got red on you! 
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10-07-2008, 01:46 PM
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10-07-2008, 01:53 PM
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How're we gonna shoot golf without guns? "It's 2am, do you know where your firearms are?" - In honor of Dennis Farina When the Boogeyman goes to bed, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~Ronald Reagan If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective. You got red on you!
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10-07-2008, 03:10 PM
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A funny thing about the article. Perhaps the biggest change in the SO, the revocation/denial of so many CCWs because of her changing of "Good Cause" was wordsmithed into "In a major change, Hutchens said, she has adopted a hands-off policy of sorts when issuing concealed weapons permits. A special unit is reviewing more than 1,000 permits issued by Carona and will decide if an applicant should be allowed to carry a weapon." The major change is nobody has "Good Cause". Will the meeting be open to comments from the floor? You folks will be in my thoughts.
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