The Sheriff doesn't TRUST volunteers with a Badge,YOU still going to get a CCW?

[Gladiator]

From: SLAYTON, THOMAS F <tslayton@ocsd.org>
Subject: Re: Copy of Letter to Lt. Slayton
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:57 PM

"As I originally understood it, the Sheriff was recalling the badges due to the AG opinion of 839, however, she has recently clarified her position, and the main reason for collecting the badges has less to do with a stricter interpretation of the law and more to do with her belief that the badges are too controversial and ultimately bad for public trust and for the health of the program."

The same thing can be said for CCW's. Replace badges with CCW. . .

[Ciderbite]

Originally Posted by Gladiator

From: SLAYTON, THOMAS F <tslayton@ocsd.org>
Subject: Re: Copy of Letter to Lt. Slayton
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:57 PM

"As I originally understood it, the Sheriff was recalling the badges due to the AG opinion of 839, however, she has recently clarified her position, and the main reason for collecting the badges has less to do with a stricter interpretation of the law and more to do with her belief that the badges are too controversial and ultimately bad for public trust and for the health of the program."

The same thing can be said for CCW's. Replace badges with CCW. . .

I dont know why anybody should be getting upset about the TEMPORARY sheriff hanging herself at every corner. Keep giving her rope and encourage her to implement her draconian LA county policies. The badges she's collecting is definetely going to ruffle some feathers from contributors for the new sheriff. She has just about peeved everyone off in the county including the people that put her there. What were these supervisors thinking when they appointed her to this position.

[BonoVox]

Originally Posted by Ciderbite

I dont know why anybody should be getting upset about the TEMPORARY sheriff hanging herself at every corner. Keep giving her rope and encourage her to implement her draconian LA county policies. The badges she's collecting is definetely going to ruffle some feathers from contributors for the new sheriff. She has just about peeved everyone off in the county including the people that put her there. What were these supervisors thinking when they appointed her to this position.

Well she/they are getting a storm of you know what raining down on them because of her comments in regards to the PSRs and how the whole badge issue was totally mismanaged.

There are 400 plus PSRs and over 1,100 CCW holders. Hmmmmmm what do you think she/they can expect when/if they start dismantling the CCW program as we know it today?????

[Red Flag]

Here is a copy of the letter we got last week...

To All PSRs,
Since assuming my responsibilities as the Sheriff of Orange County, I have been continually reminded of the value the PSR program brings to this organization. In fact, one of the first duties I performed as Sheriff was to be present at a meeting of the Villa Park City Council where PSRs were being honored for their service to that community. Since then, I have learned of the true depth and breadth of the program, and have no doubt that this is the best kept secret on the department.
With over 16,000 hours donated in 2007 and 10,000 in the first half of 2008 alone, this program is unrivaled in this county in its ability to mobilize and utilize the skills of literally hundreds of professional volunteers, yet the public perception is one of an insider’s club. This undeserved stigma is rooted in the program’s past, and is no longer accurate. However, the badges, which have become a lightning-rod for criticism and mistrust, are its most visible legacy, and serve to undermine your service and tarnish the reputation of the program.
In addition to a reevaluation of the credentials issued to program members, we are also seeking to rename it. All suggestions on both topics are welcome and will be taken into consideration as I make my decision on these issues.
It is absolutely vital that each and every one of you understand that I value this program and your service. I know from your feedback that many of you realize these changes are in the best interest of all concerned and that it is essential for us to unburden ourselves from the perceptions that have shadowed your outstanding work. Thank you for all that you do to support the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and the residents we serve. I look forward to working with you in the months and years ahead.
Sincerely,
Sheriff Sandra Hutchens

[OCRancher]

Originally Posted by Red Flag

Here is a copy of the letter we got last week...

To All PSRs,
Since assuming my responsibilities as the Sheriff of Orange County, I have been continually reminded of the value the PSR program brings to this organization. In fact, one of the first duties I performed as Sheriff was to be present at a meeting of the Villa Park City Council where PSRs were being honored for their service to that community. Since then, I have learned of the true depth and breadth of the program, and have no doubt that this is the best kept secret on the department.
With over 16,000 hours donated in 2007 and 10,000 in the first half of 2008 alone, this program is unrivaled in this county in its ability to mobilize and utilize the skills of literally hundreds of professional volunteers, yet the public perception is one of an insider’s club. This undeserved stigma is rooted in the program’s past, and is no longer accurate. However, the badges, which have become a lightning-rod for criticism and mistrust, are its most visible legacy, and serve to undermine your service and tarnish the reputation of the program.
In addition to a reevaluation of the credentials issued to program members, we are also seeking to rename it. All suggestions on both topics are welcome and will be taken into consideration as I make my decision on these issues.
It is absolutely vital that each and every one of you understand that I value this program and your service. I know from your feedback that many of you realize these changes are in the best interest of all concerned and that it is essential for us to unburden ourselves from the perceptions that have shadowed your outstanding work. Thank you for all that you do to support the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and the residents we serve. I look forward to working with you in the months and years ahead.
Sincerely,
Sheriff Sandra Hutchens

What the non-elected sheriff does not seem to grasp is that the name of the program was already changed recently for the purpose of exactly what she is once again proposing.

[X-ffdo]

Those "stinking badges" again!
They are no big deal, the big deal is the fact that trust has been breached. Badges are big deal for some LEOs, who feel that only "Real Police" should have them. Well, sorry Morris, TSA is issuing badges to everyone at the airport. I suppose those baggage checkers are real police now
I hope this sheriff gets her act together. Attitudes are hard to change. She looked so sharp in her uniform....what a waste! I'll fly in my shorts! Regulation nomex, of course, for fire proofing...HAR, HAR!!!!!