Nelson: Law-abiding citizens should have CCWs

[BonoVox]

This should be interesting......

Nelson: Law-abiding citizens should have CCWs - Total Buzz - The Orange County Register

Nelson: Law-abiding citizens should have CCWs
April 18th, 2011, 3:09 pm · 78 Comments · posted by Kimberly Edds, Staff Writer

Share7 Every law-abiding citizen who wants to carry a concealed weapon and is willing to go through the training should be allowed to have one, 4th District Supervisor Shawn Nelson told Total Buzz.

Nelson, a longtime shooter and self-acknowledged button-pusher, is now in pursuit of his own concealed weapons permit – just in case.

He’s also, he told us, a pretty decent shot.

“I’m in the limelight. I walk on the edge of controversy constantly,” said Nelson, whose application to carry a concealed weapon, or CCW, was first brought to light by the OC Weekly.

Nelson knows he isn’t the only one dipping into controversy.

The same goes for his board of supervisors colleagues who know you can’t make everyone happy while governing a county of more than 3 million people.

Steve Van Arroyo emailed Supervisor John Moorlach in 2008, threatening to “incinerate” Moorlach and his family, and kill the four other county supervisors.

No one was incinerated, but Van Arroyo was sentenced to 284 days in county jail and sent to a county mental health program, according to the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.

“We get wingnuts all the time,” Nelson said.

Moorlach wrote one of Nelson’s letters of recommendations in support of his CCW application – but he nor the other supervisors carry a concealed weapon.
“I just felt it was prudent to do it when there wasn’t an emergency,” Nelson said. “God forbid if something happens, I’ll be prepared.”

Concealed weapons permits – and who gets them and why – have been a touchy issue in Orange County, where convicted felon ex-Sheriff Mike Carona freely handed out the permits to his friends and political supporters.

Sheriff Sandra Hutchens wasted no time putting a stop to that practice, citing state law that requires applicants show “good cause” to qualify for a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Being threatened, stalked or carting around lots of cash or valuables for your work all qualify as “good cause,” Hutchens has said.

Nelson told us he’s completed the 16 hours of required training, turned in his application including the required three letters of recommendation and is waiting for the green light from Hutchens. His weapon of choice – a .45 Colt Commander.

“I’m not looking around every trash can looking for a threat,” Nelson said. “I think I know a threat when I see one.”

[Velocity]

Originally Posted by BonoVox

This should be interesting......

Interesting indeed. I especially like our Sheriff's statement about what she will accept as good cause. Ah, gotta love California.

Marty

[Gladiator]

We all know who he did his training with. Any of the regulars knows who is doing the work on the 45.

What you don't know is who is else applying on the BOS. One came as no surprise, the other almost made me fall off my chair.

[GunSlut]

Had to make a phone call to get the inside scoop on this one. Frigging incredible is all I can say. CCWI is training all three of them.

[akulahawk]

Someone commented:

For those of you that choose to believe that a STRICT reading of the Second Amendment requires membership in a State Militia, consider that originally, the militia consisted of all able-bodied men between the age of 17 and 45. Formally sanctioned State Militias came into being in the 1900′s… about 120 – 130 years after the ratification of the US Constitution and it’s 10 Amendments.

Here’s the text of the Second Amendment, “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Do some simple sentence analysis and you’ll see that there’s a dependent clause and an independent clause. Re-written for today’s meaning and the Second Amendment could be written like this:
“A well-trained in arms population being necessary to the security of a free Nation, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Oh, and as a citizen, I have as much right to intervene in stopping violent crime as a Peace Officer does… I’m just not mandated to do it.

As to the belief that handguns are inaccurate past 10 yards… well, that simply isn’t true. There are thousands of people that prove that assertion wrong every day.

And Police Officers do NOT normally practice much with their firearms. Thousands of rounds? Maybe over an average Officer’s entire CAREER! Police Officers that are “gun guys??” Yes, on their own dime.

As it sits now, based on national statistics, if I have to draw and shoot someone, I’m a LOT more likely to shoot the correct person and a lot LESS likely to shoot an innocent person than an average cop is.

And yes, I’m a CCW holder. Just an average CCW holder.

Gee, I wonder who that could be...

[jn-emt]

I really liked Nelson when he was on the Fullerton city council. He appeared to be pretty much the only councilman that seemed interested in controlling spending. And he also blew whistle to the O.C. Register when the rest of the council was about to have a closed session vote on a very large retroactive pension increase for certain workers. I think he did right by the residents, but certainly made a few enemies.

JN-EMT

Originally Posted by GunSlut

Had to make a phone call to get the inside scoop on this one. Frigging incredible is all I can say. CCWI is training all three of them.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by Velocity

Interesting indeed. I especially like our Sheriff's statement about what she will accept as good cause. Ah, gotta love California.

Marty

What a crock of crap...it was well established During the BOS Meetings that The overwhelming majority of people with CCW's had nothing to do with Corona, yet she still allows this urban legend to propogate.

Cudos to Nelson! Thank God he has come out regarding this, and I hope he remains vocal about CCW issuance through his tenure (or whatever the heck they call what they do).

[IAmASensFan]

Statistics from a recent active shooter training I did...

Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Police - 25%
Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Armed Civilians - 25%
Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Unarmed Civilians - 25%

Average duration of an active shooter incident - 3.5 - 4.5 minutes.
Average Police Response time to an active shooter incident (When they get there, not the time before they actually intervene) - 5.5 minutes

God bless the men and women of law enforcement, but even most of them admit the average joe stands a better chance of survival if they are able to protect themselves.

[IAmASensFan]

Originally Posted by IAmASensFan

Statistics from a recent active shooter training I did...

Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Police - 25%
Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Armed Civilians - 25%
Percent of ALL active shooting incidents stopped by Unarmed Civilians - 50%
Average duration of an active shooter incident - 3.5 - 4.5 minutes.
Average Police Response time to an active shooter incident (When they get there, not the time before they actually intervene) - 5.5 minutes

God bless the men and women of law enforcement, but even most of them admit the average joe stands a better chance of survival if they are able to protect themselves.

Ooops...just saw a typo.