Lawsuit brought by former sheriff’s Lt. Bill Hunt thrown out.

[glbtrottr]

It seems Mr. Hunt has a penchant for sweeping things under the rug when it suits his political career.

Bill Hunt has drunk driving contributor taken home instead of arrested or to jail...as reported by the news.
Video Library - cbs2.com

It appears when one Mr. Robert Stevenson gets pulled over for drunk driving, he asks for Bill Hunt. The deputies then turn their mike off from the video in the squad car (against dept policy) and proceed to drive Mr. Stevenson home at the request of Mr Bill Hunt.

Nice, eh?

So much for restoring integrity to the office of OC Sheriff. There has to be someone better than Bill.

[CalCCW03]

Originally Posted by glbtrottr

It seems Mr. Hunt has a penchant for sweeping things under the rug when it suits his political career.

Bill Hunt has drunk driving contributor taken home instead of arrested or to jail...as reported by the news.
Video Library - cbs2.com

It appears when one Mr. Robert Stevenson gets pulled over for drunk driving, he asks for Bill Hunt. The deputies then turn their mike off from the video in the squad car (against dept policy) and proceed to drive Mr. Stevenson home at the request of Mr Bill Hunt.

Nice, eh?

So much for restoring integrity to the office of OC Sheriff. There has to be someone better than Bill.

In the interest of being impartial and fair, the news report did not confirm that the subject or the deputies ever did speak to Mr. Hunt on the night this incident occured.

[Akzl]

Originally Posted by glbtrottr

It seems Mr. Hunt has a penchant for sweeping things under the rug when it suits his political career.

Bill Hunt has drunk driving contributor taken home instead of arrested or to jail...as reported by the news.
Video Library - cbs2.com

It appears when one Mr. Robert Stevenson gets pulled over for drunk driving, he asks for Bill Hunt. The deputies then turn their mike off from the video in the squad car (against dept policy) and proceed to drive Mr. Stevenson home at the request of Mr Bill Hunt.

Nice, eh?

So much for restoring integrity to the office of OC Sheriff. There has to be someone better than Bill.

It's a shame that CalCCW has come to this. This forum has always been a wealth of information regarding obtaining a CCW in California. Not a political forum. There are so many other avenues to air this out both in the media and internet; I had always hoped this forum would not go this route. I hope this new direction does well for the forum and members.

[CalCCW03]

Originally Posted by Akzl

It's a shame that CalCCW has come to this. This forum has always been a wealth of information regarding obtaining a CCW in California. Not a political forum. There are so many other avenues to air this out both in the media and internet; I had always hoped this forum would not go this route. I hope this new direction does well for the forum and members.

I understand what you're saying. However, this election does have a huge impact on future CCW issuance in Orange County. The site and staff will remain neutral (except for stating the obvious: Sandra Hutchens is not the right person for the job) and will allow an equal voice to those who are in favor or against for Bill Hunt or any other candidate that decides to throw their hat into the ring.

The one thing that may be an issue is the fact that the Haidl issue and the link that you quoted actually have nothing to do with CCW issuance... I am confering with the rest of the staff on how to best handle posts of this nature. Will update ASAP.

[GunSlut]

Originally Posted by CalCCW03

I am confering with the rest of the staff on how to best handle posts of this nature. Will update ASAP.

We are now looking at where to draw the line. We all see both sides of the issue.

[THE Gimper]

Originally Posted by glbtrottr

Equally interesting that during his demotion hearing, of the significant amounts of the criticism that he had leveled against Mr. Carona, the transcript reads that the bulk of his accusations were based on things he had "heard in the media" and not which he specifically had first hand knowledge of.

This is a very important point. When Bill Hunt ran against Carona, here is what he said about CCW.

"There have been less than 1200 issued CCW`s in a county of 3 million. The majority have been given to reserve police officers, judges, prosecutors and to reward political supporters. "
Good CCW news from Orange County, California: Bill Hunt promises shall-issue - THR

How did that help our cause? It didn't. It hurt our cause. That's the same crap that Hutchens cited as her justification for reviewing and revoking your CCWs. And all of you know that it isn't true! Person after person after person stood up before the Board of Supervisors and stated that they didn't know Mike Carona, had never met him, and had never contributed to his campaign.

And even if you ignore "to reward political supporters" it simply isn't true that the majority went to "reserve police officers, judges [and] prosecutors." The majority of CCWs issued under Carona went to ordinary citizens like you and me. And Hunt didn't even have the total numbers right.

But that's what the news media said (incorrectly) so that's what Bill Hunt said. Which has to make you wonder, if the news media hadn't raised the issue of CCWs, would it even have been part of Hunt's campaign?

[glbtrottr]

Any Bill Hunt sightings? It doesn't look like he logs in, responds to threads, or else...

I imagine he will be equally as interested if elected to office.

[Banana]

Glb, I was told on another board that Hunt would never answer on a public board because "his words might be taken out of context"...even though he would have written them himself and that we as voters, well it's *our* responsibility to privately e-mail Bill Hunt our questions...though he has not been responding very well to others who have e-mailed him so far.

I thought that people running for public office were supposed to court my vote, but it seems that in Hunt-land, we the voters need to fawn and beg for favor with him hoping, maybe, if we are gosh darned worthy enough, that he will answer our questions.

As far as I can tell, other than hot air, he has no history of note with CCW issuance and carries a ton of questionable baggage beyond that. Hiding in acave just makes matters worse.

[William Monroe]

I can see from the posts that no Bill Hunt supporters are allowed to post here. The ones that do are either banned, or their posts are deleted by "moderators".

It's also interesting to see allegations of Bill Hunt engaging in "illegal" activity, "cronyism" and "sweeping things under the rug" but absolutely zero proof of it. Outside of newspaper articles, no charges were brought against the man or any wrong doing was found to of happened. However, I can see facts wont cloud the agenda of a couple of you here who have personal agendas against Bill. Dont you think Greg?

Do anyone of you care to show up at rally and ask him the question yourself, or are you the typical california gun owner who will shoot off a email like Banana did and get morally outraged when he doesn't get a response back? Got news for you, the man doesn't live/hide in a cave, Banana. Get off your lazy ass and ask him in person. If you have an issue with him not issuing while in San Clemente then ask him. Stop hiding behind a screen name, be a man, and show up. No one will think anything of it. If you bring something to light then it will come out in public and we will all benefit from it.

However, as far as I can see the only issue that Bill Hunt haters have is he didnt issue any CCW permits while in San Clemente. I will be asking him that very question on November 4 at the John Lott event. I met him over at On Target and he is very approachable as well as a genuinely nice guy. It will not be hard to get a answer from him.

Last thing, I have already been banned from this forum (Ron Sallinger) for being a Bill Hunt supporter. Other reason will be given but thats the real reason. Some founding members, who have an axe to grind with hunt, is doing everything they can to undermine his campaign. That includes banning people, who support Hunt, for ridiculous reasons. Whatever the reason, people are getting fed up with Calccw staff, moderators and owners letting their petty personal differences get in the way of electing THE ONLY pro-ccw candidate in the race. Contact information is down below for those of you wishing to get further information or ask questions. Globttr........I'm still waiting for you to get a hold of me so you can show me those emails between you and SafeOC and also to have Greg meet me at my "favorite burger joint" (whatever that is). I will meet you or Greg anywhere in public as long as the conversation can be recorded to accurately report your hard evidence against Bill Hunt. Taking you have nothing, other than opinions and basless accusations, I seriously doubt the phone will ring.

Ron W. Sallinger
179 S. Jameson
Orange, Ca 92866
(949)290-0720
ron.sallinger@yahoo.com

[rundmlee]

Whoosh!! Hehe

[CalCCW03]

Mr. Sallinger saying that we do not allow Bill Hunt supporters to post here is entirely incorrect. Mr. Salinger was actually banned last year long before Mr. Hunt was in the picture. The reason he was banned is because he was bashing law enforcement and being confrontational and disrepectful to fellow members. He was warned repeatedly but took no heed to said warning. His user name at that point was Ciderbite (for those interested in taking a look at his previous posts).

When Mr. Sallinger signed up again a few weeks ago it was obvious as to who he was. So he was banned again. Not for being a Bill Hunt supporter but because of what he had done in the past. It should be obvious to anyone reading his last post that his only interest in stirring the pot. Hunt supporters are more than welcome to post here as long as it's done in a courteous and respectful manner.

Mr. Sallinger and I spoke on the phone once and have exchenged a number of e-mails. The e-mails were equally inflammatory as his post above.

As evidence that we are not banning members simply for being Hunt Supporters, there is a member who goes by the handle "Reloader". He posted either yesterday or today in this same thread. He is still an active member.

So yes, the user "William Monroe" aka Ron Sallinger aka Ciderbite will be banned again, but not for being a Bill Hunt Supporter. He is being banned for what he did last year and for continuing to do nothing but stir the pot.

On that note, this thread will be closed. It has done nothing but cause grief to myself and the rest of the staff. Anyone who has any interest in starting a Bill Hunt thread is welcome to do so but they will be closely monitored to ensure it does not turn into a flame fest.

Those of you who are interested in contacting Mr. Sallinger may do so.

Thank you,

PS. It would be kind of hard for Banana to "be a man" as SHE is lacking the necessary body parts.

[CalCCW03]

A couple pieces of additional information on why Mr. Sallinger was previously banned. He allowed other individuals (one of which had also been banned for similar reasons) to post to the site using his forum ID. He had previously been banned from californiaccw.org (User ID: Woolybear) for having an offensive picture in his avatar and refusing to remove it. Kinda funny that he is suddenly big on people using their real names when he in the past hasn't.