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Old 05-31-2009, 09:59 AM
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I guess once you join the brotherhood, you get to have a "Get out of jail free" card.......Nice to be above the law!!
So much wrong in such a short time!!!!! Incredible.
I don't think this officer is getting a "get out of jail free" card. She will deal with the criminal justice system like anyone else. Penalty probably being 3 to 6 months suspended license, AA classes, restitution, fine and 3 years probation. Not to mention $3K to 5K attourney bills and double or triple car insurance premiums for 10 years.

Only thing I comented on was why it took so long to break the news she was in a county unmarked car? That was not her responsibility to report. It was the higher up officials at the OCSD's duty. I guess their excuse will be it was an ongoing investigation.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:31 PM
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If you're an executive officer out in a sheriffs unit driving drunk & busted this should be an instant demotion , assigned to a desk position indefinitely,loss of license & have to attend dui school.

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Old 05-31-2009, 01:18 PM
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If you're an executive officer out in a sheriffs unit driving drunk & busted this should be an instant demotion , assigned to a desk position indefinitely,loss of license & have to attend dui school.
She was reassigned to the jail. That's probably all the OCSD will do to her, since they don't have a policy on DUI while in a county vehicle. She'll be there for two to three years and then move on to another position. Probably not back to Harbormaster, but to another job that's just as "nice".

She'll probably get her license suspended for six months and can only drive to and from work and her AA classes. Plus she will be on informal probation for at least three years.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:54 PM
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The comment on the "get out of jail free" card was in reference to the, (As I understood it), the previous post about the OC sheriff getting into a collision with another car while driving and seemingly it was swept under the carpet. Very little, if anything was reported. Info is sketchy, I am not sure about details since there is no available info to the serfs.
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:20 PM
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The comment on the "get out of jail free" card was in reference to the, (As I understood it), the previous post about the OC sheriff getting into a collision with another car while driving and seemingly it was swept under the carpet. Very little, if anything was reported. Info is sketchy, I am not sure about details since there is no available info to the serfs.
No that is not get out of jail free card. That is the infamous swept under the carpet card!
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:11 PM
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Well, to be precise, you are correct!.
I am sure she did not get to be put in a cell, so technically, correct you are!
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She was reassigned to the jail. That's probably all the OCSD will do to her, since they don't have a policy on DUI while in a county vehicle. She'll be there for two to three years and then move on to another position. Probably not back to Harbormaster, but to another job that's just as "nice".

She'll probably get her license suspended for six months and can only drive to and from work and her AA classes. Plus she will be on informal probation for at least three years.
We had a supervising probation officer get busted for dui,flashed his badge at a CHP & tell him he couldn't take him to jail,wrong remarks to make he was booked in central jail; end result was a permanent demotion to probation officer doing investigations from his desk .
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:29 PM
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This is not DUI story related, but just Thursday I was stopped at a corner where the light had just turned green and I was turning right. An OCSD vehicle blew through the red light w/o lights and ended up next to me at the next stop light where she had to turn left against traffice .... she waited for the light to turn green on that one, but if I would have been eager to go on green, I would ahve been t-boned by the OSCD car. It was fully marked, but no flashers or sirens...... I tried to catch the vehicle number, but I didn't want to look too obvious (fear of retaliation) and I missed it.

This happened in South OC at Alicia and I-5 NB exit.

Any hints about what to do in the future? It was unsafe, improper and a pure violation of law.

I have lodged a citizen complaint in the past(8 yrs ago) when I saw a similar event with a police officer blowing a light w/o lights & sirens. It turned out she was late for work ..... it made the small town's city council meeting.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:35 PM
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Well, to be precise, you are correct!.
I am sure she did not get to be put in a cell, so technically, correct you are!
This whole thread got derailed by yours truly. I am not speaking of the lady that got arrested for drunk driving. (technically, that is an arrest) Wires got crossed.
In a way I feel sorry for her, I mean The person who was DUI, not the one who's situation got swept under the carpet. Life sometimes can load you to the breaking point. In her case, this is probably the result.
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She lost a son to suicide, 99.9% of people have not experienced that. not excusing it, but if my son did that, I would do much worse things than just drink.

As some of you know....

I'm the .01% that has experienced this....

I became a full blown alchy....but was smart enough not to drive....I guess....

Self medication is a wonderful thing........for a while....

But we do get past it, if we allow ourselves too....

I hope she is able to move forward....

As for the DUI....There is no excuse....Period....

She Drank (over the limit)....She Drove (over the limit)....She crashed (over the limit)....

All must take responsibility for their actions....
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As some of you know....

I'm the .01% that has experienced this....

I became a full blown alchy....but was smart enough not to drive....I guess....

Self medication is a wonderful thing........for a while....

But we do get past it, if we allow ourselves too....

I hope she is able to move forward....

As for the DUI....There is no excuse....Period....

She Drank (over the limit)....She Drove (over the limit)....She crashed (over the limit)....

All must take responsibility for their actions....


Very well said.
I believe this shows your strong sense of character, the lady in question I have no doubt is intelligent, how else would she be a senior official, but may lack some sense of character.
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Old 06-01-2009, 08:57 AM
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As some of you know....

I'm the .01% that has experienced this....

I became a full blown alchy....but was smart enough not to drive....I guess....

Self medication is a wonderful thing........for a while....

But we do get past it, if we allow ourselves too....

I hope she is able to move forward....

As for the DUI....There is no excuse....Period....

She Drank (over the limit)....She Drove (over the limit)....She crashed (over the limit)....

All must take responsibility for their actions....
Scout, thanks for your insight.
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:03 PM
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OK, in addition to a DUI for an OCSD LT., the current, appointed sheriff, had an accident, in a county vehicle, in which she said something like "she was hit" and later, the facts about the accident did not support herstory? WOW! You can be hit by someone and still have it be your fault.

Why didn't this make the news?

How 'bout a PRA on this?
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:28 PM
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OK, in addition to a DUI for an OCSD LT., the current, appointed sheriff, had an accident, in a county vehicle, in which she said something like "she was hit" and later, the facts about the accident did not support herstory? WOW! You can be hit by someone and still have it be your fault.

Why didn't this make the news?

How 'bout a PRA on this?
OCCCWS did a PRA on this after rumors of the accident surfaced. They have the audio of Sheriff Hutchens calling dispatch on her phone and saying: 'I just had somebody run into me over here on the freeway.' Yet the Sgt reporting to the accident review board stated in his report: 'Although Sheriff Hutchens signaled and checked her mirrors she did not adequately insure (sp) the number two lane was clear prior to transiting into it. This accident was preventable.'

Now, in the scheme of things is the accident itself a big deal? No. But why was information on it not released by the Sheriff's Department PIO as a matter of routine? Do they not think that 'Sheriff causes accident on freeway' is worthy of at least a general informational release?

This is just one more indicator of this Sheriff's erratic and secretive behavior.
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:32 PM
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Can you link to the news article on this incident? Oh wait what news article? What did I say? Did you say? Confused. I am sure this incident could not of happened during the holiday season in the evening? Right? Wait, what did you say?
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