[gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Quietpi

The idea that judges and reserve deputies lack very strong "Good Cause" is a little strange. I know several judges, and once was a reserve deputy. They HAVE "Good Cause." I've personally run into judges, and deputies, and lots of other people all over town. Why would they only run into good guys?

Are you suggesting that ordinary citizens only run into good guys?

To argue that the judges have a strong "good cause" just because their chosen career makes a lot of low lifes angry at them, you must also provide numbers that back you up. I'll bet you a dozen bavarian cream filled Crispy Cream doughnuts that statistically speaking, "Joe Sixpack" is mugged, stabbed, shot and KILLED FAR more often than "Judge Thughanger." 10,000 unarmed citizens are killed each year. how many of them are judges, LEOs and your other categories that you classify as having a strong good cause? I'll bet it is less than 1/2 of 1%

Judges drive nice cars, live in nice houses with alarm systems. Joe Sixpack lives in the low rent district, has a job where he regularly mingles among the population which contains all sorts of low life, and he is FAR more likely to randomly encounter a deadly threat than the judge is.

Funny -- just last Friday I was reading an account of a judge's house being firebombed by none other than William Ayres and his wife, Bernadette Dorn. Then there was the gang banger who informed me that it wouldn't be healthy for me if he went to prison. He was charged in a drive-by. He went to prison. In fact, he got out a couple years ago.

I live in Vista, CA. It is heavily populated by illegal Mexicans, many with criminal records, even more with horrible untreated diseases they brought over from Mexico or contracted from some hooker on South Santa Fe Avenue, and few of them even speak English. There are stabbings, break-ins, burglaries, car thefts, carjackings, murders and rapes occurring in this area nearly every day. I don't think five days can pass without me hearing a gun being fired off in the distance late at night.

The Melrose courthouse isn't far away. There are judges in there who live in Rancho Penasquitos or Hidden Meadows or Crosby Estates, all gated communities with large expensive homes or mansions, private 24-hour armed security roaming their private streets in patrol cars day and night, and an armed guard at every gate.

I'm sorry, but even if there are a whole bunch of gang bangers who hate a certain judge at the Melrose courthouse, I can't buy the argument that HE is more worthy of a CCW than I am. Even if not a single gang banger knows I exist, that is no guarantee that I will not find myself at the wrong end of a knife or gun and there is NOTHING to support the argument that I am less likely to find myself in a life threatening situation than a judge is, but I could certainly provide you with numbers and stats that prove a CITIZEN is at far greater statistical risk than a JUDGE!

It would be NICE if criminals said, "Hi. I'm looking to rob someone for drug money and I'm willing to kill them if they don't cooperate or if they have nothing to give me. Now, I've selected you because you are alone here in this parking lot where no one can see us, but before I proceed, please tell me if you have any "good cause" which would prevent me from making you my next victim. For instance, if you are not a judge, a cop, or a prison guard, I really have no beef with you, so we'll just part as friends and go our separate ways. So ... what do you do for a living sir?"

The judge pulls into a fine restaurant where his car is parked by a valet attendant. He is seated in a quiet corner and given exceptional service. It is fairly certain that some low life drifting into the restaurant gunning for the judge would be noticed and at the very least, encouraged to leave.

I go to Burger King for a quick bite. I park in the lot and walk in to stand in line with all of the riff-raff. The lowest of low lifes walk in and stand in line behind me. They can be homeless, diseased or BLEEDING and the B.K. employees will do NOTHING about it. If he is looking for trouble, I seriously doubt that the fact that I am not a judge will matter to him.

Again, I can't see where the judge is at any greater risk than I am. In fact, it is *I* who am at greater risk, because my normal daily habits place me where a judge seldom goes, in the lines at convenience stores and fast food joints, in the mall and other retail stores and on public streets where criminals just might decide I am their next victim, even though they don't know me or hate me.