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Old 10-12-2008, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
Why? Do you believe that a judge or reserve PO is at any greater risk than the average citizen while standing in line at a convenience store? No one is "going after" them, but as someone else said, there should be no special favors for one group over another. I am confident enough to state publicly that I place AT LEAST as much value on MY life as I do on that of ANY judge or LEO. I don't think they deserve any more (or less) consideration to be afforded the means for self-defense.



Really? So, that cop, Peterson who killed how many wives? He should get a CCW "without question" just because he is/was a cop? What about that cop who killed the girl ... Craig Peyer? Please don't try to convince me that cops, judges, reserve LEOs and other folks in law enforcement are somehow cleansed of the potential for evil and thus somehow especially deserving of a CCW. They aren't.

The "cop/judge/Reserve LEO" career choice places no additional weight on any decision I would make about their ability to carry. If they are an honest law-abiding citizen, they should be able to carry, regardless of their career choice.



When you create a division between "us" and "them" by placing those people on a pedestal, you defeat your own argument that any citizen should be able to carry. I am not comparing my career to theirs. I am comparing my LIFE to theirs, and their life is not worth one cent more than mine, or one cent less.



If a person goes out in public, his life IS threatened. Any person at any time at any place can become a victim of violent crime. Sorry, but I don't buy the argument that their lives are in greater peril than my own, given both us us walking down a public street. Criminals don't consult a website with photographs and biographies of "PEOPLE TO HATE." That is why they are called "crimes of opportunity" and not "crimes of carefully researched victims."



I see no difference, and support the issuance of CCW's to judges and RPO's by giving it the exact same priority and weight as that of issuance to any honest citizen regardless of their chosen career.

Judges sentence, try, convict, remand and face criminals or ticked off defendants in civil trials who recognize them on or off duty.

Reserves are out in the field arresting, detaining, interacting with and facing criminals who recognize them on or off duty.

I see your point, but you have to see the other side too. I was a bailiff for a short time when there was open overtime available in the courts. The judge was seriously in fear of his life - even while on the bench. He wouldn't go out there without me by his side. It was a surprise to me at first. Then I realized the 20 inmates (crips, bloods, murderers, rapists, burglars) marched into the court were all looking at him - all day - every day for year after year.

Again...it's us vs. them. It's not special classes unless a sheriff makes it that way with selective issuing. That's the real problem. The politics.
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