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Originally Posted by NSP
The gentleman is named Fred. I'm going to borrow your quote from you to show where he got this conclusion from. Also he's been teaching the class for over a decade.
417. (a) (2) Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of
any other person, draws or exhibits any firearm, whether loaded or
unloaded, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who in any
manner, unlawfully uses a firearm in any fight or quarrel is
punishable as follows:
He says that if someone can tell you're carrying through any means (imprint or otherwise) the sherriff can be called, of course at that point it's at their discretion.
Of course in the litigious society we live in if you have a rifle legally stored in your vehicle and someone sees it the police are called in.
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Originally Posted by hbliam
The term is "elements of the crime". If you don't have the elements you don't have the crime. You can underline exhibit all day long but unless the person is exhibiting the firearm in a rude, angry, or threatening manner you have...no crime.
Sorry but the guy teaching the class is teaching misinformation. Having your shirt slip up and expose a firearm isn't what I would call rude or angry. Yes, you may have someone call the police and say you have a gun but after you show them your CCW you will be on your way.
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Just underlining hb's point... the underlined stuff above is the elements of the crime. Just so you know, hbliam knows of what he speaks.
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
You also need to look out for any city or county ordinances that are on the books for open carry. You could be charged with open carry of a loaded firearm if you accidentally let it show.
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This is also something to be aware of. Sacramento County does not have an ordinance that involves firearms in a manner other than regulating discharge of them. However, the City of Sacramento (as an example) does have those ordinances. There is an exception for people with a license for those weapons though. I'd suspect that such county/city ordinances apply only to the unlicensed carry of weapons.