Bah humbug! I still use Hoppes #9 cleaner, and Hoppes gun oil. Rifles that need grease get plastilube, which was designed for the M1 Garand, but I use it on all my rifles, works great--sticks well, doesnt melt in heat or freeze up in cold, and doesnt go spraying off the rifles when you are firing it.
The only major exception to this whole process is when cleaning old C&R relics, I use naptha to cut through the caked on cosmoline, followed by a bath in CLP or Hoppes gun oil, since the naptha strips ALL the oil and grease from the steel, it needs oil real quick, or rust can attack parts soon.
Not saying those wonder lubes and fancy cleaners arent good stuff, but I clean a lot of guns, and it seems like there is a good deal of hype and marketing to go along with some real sky-high prices for that fancy stuff. I would be surprised if they really are SOOOOO much better than the older traditional materials.
The majority of my guns are about 60-70 years old, they look great, perform great, and have had traditional materials used on them (including their long slumber embalmed in cosmoline).
BTW, MidwayUSA has Hoppes #9 and Hoppes gun oil in bulk, you can save pretty big $$ buying it that way, compared to the dinky little bottles they sell in sporting goods stores.
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