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Old 02-19-2008, 12:00 AM
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1. The defendant drew or exhibited a firearm in the immediate presence of someone else;
2. The defendant did so in a rude, angry, or threatening manner;

Remember it's not the gun owners perception, it's the someone else perception. I'm a expert on a case right now where the someone perception is a very big deal.
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