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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy182x2
Let me rephrase, I don't think the deputy went in to hurt anyone, my point was people thinking of it as murder can think that way because of the way the situation went down.
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And they would be wrong from a legal standpoint. What is your point again?
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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy182x2
The deputy put himself into a situation where he was trying to do the right thing. Unfortunately someone died. Fortunately it was not someone who was doing the right thing. The issue is, he put himself there-and if that escalated the situation to a point where someone not dying was not an option-then there are questions.
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No, the BAD GUY made the choice. He chose to commit the crime, he chose to flee, and he chose to bring a replica firearm to a gunfight.
He chose poorly.
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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy182x2
I find it very funny how upset people get-I never said the retired deputy did anything wrong, I was wondering out loud about how the situation went down. You think because I don't automatically say "this guy was a deputy so he must be right" that I'm an enemy. Far from it, most of my family are LEOS in NYC. They've had to deal with people questioning everything they've done and every time they've come out on top. I stand behind law enforcement.
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Ah yes, the 'ol "Well I have family in law enforcement" line. I can see where this is going. [/sarcasm]
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At the same time my cousin was beaten by cops because he said the wrong thing-and they didn't know his cousin was their captain  -there are bad apples everywhere. |
Bad apples? I presume you have more information as to how this situation went down beyond the small blurb you posted. I would pass no more judgement based on your one sentence anymore than anyone (including myself) should pass judgement on the original topic here based on a "news" report.
I've arrested the mayor's son in the city where I work, but I had no idea it was his son. So does that make me a bad apple?
See how this works?
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Do not insult me because I would not put my family in a situation where they can get hurt-please.  |
Nobody insulted you. That is a choice that you have to make and NO ONE anywhere can fault you for it........nor has anyone done so.
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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy182x2
if you read what I said right after that was just as telling-I said if he was just being a good witness then he deserves my thanks.
I also find it funny that my point was ignored-if he was following and getting information for LE to arrest the guy-I may have done that. If he got out of his car and attempted to arrest the guy himself-that is the situation I would not put my family into. God forbid he had a real gun-or that his GF had one and used it on the Retired LEO and his family.
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Your point here wasn't ignored, you just didn't state it clearly the first time.
Then again, you did state, "Personally I would attempt to do everything I could to avoid putting myself or my family in that kind of situation." But you would follow the bad guy.
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For clarity's sake and to avoid thread drift, I will re-state what I have stated on this board in the past:
It's OK to discuss an officer-involved shooting and critique the tactics (by either party involved), the weapon choices, or whatever.
It's certainly OK to disagree. No one here knows everything, we can all certainly learn something from each other.
It's NOT OK to render judgement as to justification based on the often prejudicial, incomplete, and inaccurate facts presented in the "news" media. Doing so serves no legitimate purpose and can only damage your own reputation as a poster and potentially smear the officers involved.
I've been there and I won't tolerate it, whether it's on the internet or in a public restaurant (those make for some interesting stories.........)
I always have and will continue to call out members who pass judgement.
I will continue to do so until I am banned here. Feel free to hit the "Report Post" icon on the upper right if you feel necessary.